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  • Writer's pictureMatt "Maverick" Reilly

Kicking Off The Meltdown: The Future of RLCS, Apex Legends | The Meltdown ft Llama & Cue | Episode 1



Recorded 14 February 2024

Broadcast 23 February 2024

 

YoBoyCue

00:00:00:00-00:00:43:15

"Hey, yo. What it do What it do. It’s ya boy Cue. Welcome to the most electrifying podcast in esports entertainment brought to you by the coldest tournament host with some hot takes from your favorite casters, favorite casters. This is The Meltdown. Along with me for the ride, it's my partner in crime, my brother from another mama. It's the llama. How you doing, fam?"

Llama77

00:00:45:39-00:00:57:04

"Tastic. I'm excited. We get to talk about some of these sports. We get to break some things down. My days go on, my morning, my afternoon. Wherever we could be recording this because you guys don't know at home. But my my day's going fantastic. Harvard."

YoBoyCue

00:00:57:04-00:01:16:04

"GQ living the dream is another beautiful day in the neighborhood. You know, we had some snow yesterday, but already get it off the roads. Everything is kind of back to normal. So I'm excited to kind of get down into it. We've got a lot of things going on. Orals, yes, allergies, even VCT getting all this. We can all think we're talk about that too, too much today."

YoBoyCue

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"But I think the best place probably to start off, as you and I kind of cast the most of it feels like together would probably be Rocket League, right?"

Llama77

00:01:24:05-00:01:42:00

"Definitely does. I think we start off with the open qualifiers. We would have open qualifiers for all of our regions. North America specifically is really what I want to talk about because again, we're North America and we got to talk about the results. And so this this age bracket isn't built just yet. That that is still to come this next weekend."

Llama77

00:01:42:00-00:02:00:23

"But we do have those 16 teams that are going to be playing for those top eight seeds. And I got to say. Q This pirates on a boat squad really, really has stepped up in the past. I think they're a bubble team that has transitioned to something of a semi-pro ten year pro team going six zero, by the way, in their bracket in the third day."

Llama77

00:02:00:23-00:02:06:29

"So I feel like they are the main target of my kind of sightlines. But all the other pro teams seem to do pretty well too."

YoBoyCue

00:02:06:34-00:02:34:30

"Yeah, I feel like we're definitely seeing a lot of the consistency at the top from a lot of the organizations that we are used to seeing. Right? When you talk about I mean, when when when you talk about teams that at least in any right, the G twos, the G the space Asian gaming's. But then I think when you kind of start getting towards I feel like the end of that top eight is about that seven eight position is kind of where things really get busted wide open."

YoBoyCue

00:02:34:30-00:02:54:43

"I mean we've even seen in the sense where we've got teams that are in this stage of Suess that didn't make last stage as was who I even think could make some big noise this time around and switch. So I feel like in any that kind of middle tier that's right behind that. Well, maybe not right behind the top tier, but that's behind that top most here, it feels like it's wide open right now."

Llama77

00:02:54:48-00:03:13:30

"It really, really does. And I think specifically, you kind of look at that losers round three in the lower bracket and it's kind of littered with a ton of teams that really could make a difference. And Lotus eight, they were playing with love at night. Yeah. And Zappos, they no longer have left. They both are looking for a team."

Llama77

00:03:13:30-00:03:35:11

"They kind of split up two in one. So it'll be interesting to see. We know Zapdos and a lot of both really, really good shooters. They got round three, you got a playing two players of the exact same playstyle you have, you have teams like combos are flying with the player. Cobb was so much zero experience. You have so many teams that I feel like like omelet who even had a, you know, upset early that I feel like could make such a difference later on."

YoBoyCue

00:03:35:25-00:03:53:45

"Yeah, I feel like I'm like make a difference later on even. I think for me I actually did my pick them here actually earlier today I recorded it but for deleted XD. I feel like it's another even team that I look at for them and I'm like man, they could like really make some noise, especially depending on how the bracket itself plays out."

YoBoyCue

00:03:53:45-00:04:14:09

"A team that I only made their first Swiss bracket last time around now looking to get it out of the Swiss for the first time. But even when you talk about some of the teams that didn't make it, I mean the up and men not making it right, you also have young whippersnappers who made Swiss last time around not making it plot twist."

YoBoyCue

00:04:14:14-00:04:31:37

"There is a good amount of teams that are riddled in there. It's I feel like it lets you know, especially a lot of the teams that we see whether it's through Frost and some of the other like behind the scenes, like you got to make sure you're showing up and showing out and putting your best foot forward because teams are showing out when it comes to when it matters the most."

YoBoyCue

00:04:31:51-00:04:34:19

"And that's on our as qualifiers."

Llama77

00:04:34:24-00:04:55:28

"Then Absolutely is. And I think it's important. You mentioned Frost this last week we got to saw Emilio de Gamer kind of play on a different team than usual not playing on that Akron zips gold squad but I mean the other Akron Zips squad actually making it to that Swiss stage, the first crowd squad, I believe, to ever make as a full team towards associates."

Llama77

00:04:55:28-00:05:16:32

"I think that is just absolutely such an accomplishment. But I also think it's good to look a little bit further back as well. I think I'm looking at orgs specifically like Clover City where they made a couple of roster changes on their starting lineup, but they're their academy roster, which has an average age of 14, got the same exact rank as them and almost won more games and almost went further."

YoBoyCue

00:05:16:37-00:05:31:19

"Yeah I mean I feel like I mean one we're starting to see. I think part of the reason they changed the age gap. I think there's definitely conversations around, you know, should it be as low as it was? But there's talent out there. You and I even know that from, you know, high school leagues that we both cast in."

YoBoyCue

00:05:31:19-00:05:54:16

"Right. Like, we know that there are people who are young that are like very, very good at this game. But I feel like when you look at first off, I kind of want to talk about you mentioned

the aggressive seam up RC early team as a whole and make it RLC has really cool I think that pathway to pro being a thing super cool it is."

YoBoyCue

00:05:54:21-00:06:20:07

"But I also don't want to make it seem like they're the first like CRL players that have kind of got there because obviously we've seen it before and even like we've seen this year, when you look at a team like it, actually you look at a team like Incorrect that is made of a roster completely full of zero players, I think we are starting to see this tide where I felt like before in the past it was when pros finally got a little too old."

YoBoyCue

00:06:20:07-00:06:31:37

"They then maybe went the CRL route, right? You know, I mean, now we're almost seeing it where people who are kind of learning, they're getting their rounds, a bunch of them now, that that pathway to go the opposite way is becoming available as well."

Llama77

00:06:31:42-00:06:58:35

"It really is. And I think specifically it's kind of interesting. I did a I did an event a couple of weekends ago that it was a high school or excuse me, a college LAN with seven of those college teams. I got to interview some of the players and whatnot. One of the players was talking about how like it's it's a weird thing that like collegiate players kind of go and play oral sex on their own, but he does kind of understand it because again, you don't you don't always have the best three players on your own team."

Llama77

00:06:58:35-00:07:14:31

"Sometimes you need to go find one. But he was this crazy, insane striker. And I'm like, What are your plans for this? Yes. He's like, My plans are to leave my two teammates behind, to go join some other team. So I don't know if that's going to be a trend in the future or if we're going to see more like teams like Akron Zips that just get in as a full squad and join up."

YoBoyCue

00:07:14:36-00:07:37:52

"So and I guess maybe not to jump ahead of the topic too much, but I think that really kind of goes to, I think a trend we're seeing in North America where, you know, the veterans aren't necessarily picking up like the young talent unless they like have an active out, you know what I mean? So it's within their own network."

YoBoyCue

00:07:37:57-00:08:11:24

"And while you can find people in your like network, that way they can play the game, they're well, I feel like it really restricts things and it has all of this talent that could kind of use that mentoring. Being under the wing of a veteran that's, you know, been around for a few seasons that could really allow these new players to reach new plateaus are not quite getting that I, I go back and forth on it right as much as I would love to see more CRL teams going in here I kind of as a team that one and they get the two camps already, boot camp, they're already at that school together."

YoBoyCue

00:08:11:24-00:08:37:34

"Right? But that you get so many advantages of having that experience. But I do feel like when you talk about putting your best team together, there needs to be more mixing of the good talent coming in, whether that's Cyril or even younger players with some of these players that have been around for a while. You know, when we see these even like ragged, not ragtag teams, that these are kind of like late assembled teams of pros that were like, well, we don't have a roster to go to, let's get together."

YoBoyCue

00:08:37:39-00:08:48:01

"None of them picked up. A The only one you can think of is Pirates on a boat who you were talking about. They picked up five up and like kind of had pretty big like instant chemistry, you know?"

Llama77

00:08:48:01-00:09:06:37

"I mean that I mean, the five up pick up was probably I think it is one of the biggest pickups of a bubble player in this kind of season of Rocket League. I mean, five Up was a player that we both know played in so many weekly events, played with the other squad and then like showed himself as just a great player, so they picked him up

."

Llama77

00:09:06:37-00:09:24:46

"So I do think that they need to kind of delve more into the bubble scene. And I think as well, there are talent rising that we talk about. I think I was hearing it correctly that the Culver City Academy squad was super hyped because they they were all be and six fans and they I think they said if you make it to losers round three, you get promoted a B-plus."

Llama77

00:09:24:46-00:09:39:22

"So I think a lot of those teams are starting to move up, not only in the world of Rocket League kind of get their social media following, but also in the six man server, which is important to sometimes get that vouch if you're not. Plus if you're not a sometimes you won't even land on team."

YoBoyCue

00:09:39:27-00:10:01:39

"Yeah I mean we now are not even just get the upper two days to show that you deserve a spot to be on a team right So it's definitely I don't know what has to change for that to change because I do feel like when you look at across the ocean, we see in a lot of other regions that you put a young talent with, then with some experience that things kind of pop off."

YoBoyCue

00:10:01:39-00:10:24:59

"Yeah, you have the twins over in Mena, you put them under need some experience and they start to grow even more. So I feel like it's something that's maybe missing in at a but we're starting to see it. I think Pires on a boat sees it and I do want it was something I even wondered when we saw the whole Harrod's team ended up getting signed by TSM, which is a big org jumping in."

YoBoyCue

00:10:24:59-00:10:51:47

"Right? But it's like your job being basically all, not all are ALCS rookies, but yeah, very minimal experience. And of where any three of those or any of those players I'm especially looking at WAVY though could have made some other rosters a lot better in the off season it's but instead of just kind of stuck playing with well I don't wanna say stuck playing with TSM but playing with the team that has less experience, you know I mean."

Llama77

00:10:51:52-00:11:07:33

"Yeah, 100%. I mean, I think you do have to see your players there and you do have WAVY, who I think we both know is going to be a superstar as soon as we saw him was just winning literally every single tournament, every single tournament. So I think that wave, he is young as well. I think he's 16 or 17."

Llama77

00:11:07:33-00:11:20:56

"So he has that room to to improve and he has those two zero members behind him. They might not have as much experience in all this, but I feel like, you know, like you said, it's just a choice that I think you have to make. If you're if you're TSM, you see that they are one of the best squads."

Llama77

00:11:20:56-00:11:44:58

"I think they were possibly the best to pick up of any available organization and you get it done. You now have a great team that has made it to the Swiss stage in day three. So I think towards your earlier point though, it's very interesting kind of comparing overseas to here, comparing the other regions to here because that kind of gets us towards our next topic of like is North America like falling behind?"

YoBoyCue

00:11:45:03-00:12:10:10

"Well, I feel like going into even from the off season, from last season and this year we kind of saw a lot of the shake, a lot of the roster mania kind of unfolding. And I think for a lot of people they saw that it was overdue. You know, we saw kind of the, you know, I think across the board in EA Sports, but especially in Rocket League, you know, that covered bubble, everyone had money."

YoBoyCue

00:12:10:24-00:12:34:37

"So then it kind of became a bidding war for the top players. Right. And then all of a sudden you have nowhere to unload these really big contracts. You're almost stuck like feeling that you have to try to make it work. I do wonder if even still there's kind of some that layover of, we're not making the money

we used to, so maybe I'm not putting forward the work."

YoBoyCue

00:12:34:37-00:13:00:35

"I'm not sure if that's the case. I also tend to think and it's not just in Rocket League, but I actually think it's across e-sports in general. I think the American ego really plays against competitors. When you look at just the fringe region and Rocket League, right? Like, well, I mean the French region, EU all, all, all but like even just the specifically like the French region itself, right?"

YoBoyCue

00:13:00:39-00:13:25:23

"Like there are these teams that instead of them feeling like they had to be at each other's neck, come in for one another spot, you know they're they're ranked grinded together when they're on opposite teams are learning from one another versus trying to constantly like cut at one another. And I wonder if as much as, you know, iron sharpens iron and I give that whole perspective, right?"

YoBoyCue

00:13:25:28-00:13:34:39

"I think there has to be a point where we can set those things aside for the betterment of even just the region as a whole. And I'm not sure any is there."

Llama77

00:13:34:44-00:13:53:49

"I don't think so either. I mean, I've seen it multiple times, you know, I'm watching these RLC team streams or while watching the player point of view and they're like, okay, we got to go find a scrim to, you know, play somebody an hour before they message somebody and then they drop out because the other team doesn't think they're good enough, even though they've made it to the exact same round, they're in the exact same position."

Llama77

00:13:54:03-00:14:12:55

"You might have different players, but it definitely feels like there's an ego issue there that if they just okay, you just start playing everybody, you just start playing the teams that are, you know, maybe a little tiny bit worse than you, It can really help you both. And I can understand the point of view of pro teams of like, you know, you don't want to give over all of your strategies."

Llama77

00:14:12:55-00:14:31:39

"You don't want to give over your playbook. You don't want to have as much VOD footage out as possible. But I think that's just like a loser mentality. That's just like saying, okay, we're we're we're too good to reveal any of our secrets. And if we reveal our secrets, we're going to lose the game. And that is just discrediting the coach, the players and everybody I feel like on the entire team."

YoBoyCue

00:14:31:51-00:14:56:54

"Yeah, I almost look at it as I don't want people to find our flaws through VODs instead of saying, You know what? I don't care where our game is that strong, you can watch it all you want. We're just going to be better at Rocket League than you, which it's almost like the opposite of what we were just talking about with the whole, like, competitive ads, which it's like such a weird, I don't know, like Catch 22 in the region."

YoBoyCue

00:14:56:54-00:15:24:11

"It's very I feel I feel like when you look at the talent, I don't think that at a person for a person individual like mechanical skill I don't think that you can say that any is powered by, you know, the EU region. But when you look at it on paper, the you just can't even stand a chance in the like we don't even have a dog in the fight homes, you know, I mean."

Llama77

00:15:24:16-00:15:43:33

"It seems that way. I mean I think as well that like it's kind of that same issue between North America and EU where EU is kind of like, okay, we are the best region in the world, Why would we play another pro team? Why would we, you know, join some of these other tournaments and play against them if we're once again going to reveal things that could possibly put them further ahead?"

Llama77

00:15:43:33-00:16:00:16

"I think they kind of, like you said, play it within themselves a little bit better. But I think there's definitely some younger talent that could start

to shake things up. And you're talking about players that they might not be ready now. There may be again, I look back to the clarity Academy roster that is, again, average age of 14."

Llama77

00:16:00:16-00:16:10:50

"You got Seth out there who is always hyphen above, but they are young and they have time to improve before they kind of hit the big stage and they're already earning money. So it's kind of insane to see."

YoBoyCue

00:16:10:55-00:16:47:11

"I think the other thing too is when you look at I feel like it's like a multilayer like issue, right? Because when you even when you look at the way organizations are built or maybe not so much organizations are built, but the expectation from an NRA run organization versus a European run organization, when you even look at things like boot camp, right, like over an EU, it's very much kind of expected that you're going to boot camp within season, or at least for, you know, heading into like an event right."

YoBoyCue

00:16:47:11-00:17:21:25

"Whereas doesn't seem to be the case so much, especially particularly in regional play in North America. And while I can understand that a lot of landmass for North America as a as a big military cause, as a military brat who has done quite a bit of traveling, I understand that from the East Coast to the West Coast and North America's wider than the East coast, the west coast of, you know, pretty well any other country, you know, I mean, so other than like Russia."

YoBoyCue

00:17:21:25-00:17:51:35

"Yeah. I mean, so I guess there's a distance problem there. But I also know that North American in general is paying their players more, too. So, you know, at what point do either you cut back on the pay to the players a little bit more and then say, hey, but we are going to pay for the boot camp thing, You know, for these two months for this split and these two months for this split, we're in a boot camp, even if it's for like two of the three events, right?"

YoBoyCue

00:17:51:35-00:18:13:48

"Because the way that the schedule set up right now, that would just mean that you're boot camping for a month and that's financially pretty easy to do. I feel like you do it for qualifier two and three and then if you make land you boot camp again, you know, a week before you set up and you know, move, which I guess while we're talking about it, did you see that there's locations been announced for our else?"

Llama77

00:18:13:49-00:18:15:22

"Yes I did not."

YoBoyCue

00:18:15:27-00:18:37:14

"Go into Copenhagen baby for land number one So you know, if you know that and you go in there then you boot camp once again. But we don't see it in North American. I don't know if it's a cultural difference because, again, it's like the all we're the best at what we do so we can do it from the comfort of our own home or what it was."

YoBoyCue

00:18:37:15-00:19:00:57

"I actually kind of felt bad when I saw all the discourse kind of around the topic on Twitter. I kind of felt bad that I never noticed during broadcast because, you know, they usually show like the cams of the players and yeah, when you're watching you, it's usually a team that's all in the same room. You know, you can see one player over their shoulder and it's usually not the case in North America."

YoBoyCue

00:19:00:57-00:19:06:13

"And, you know, can't help but wonder if that reflection in the results of it."

Llama77

00:19:06:18-00:19:24:39

"I mean, I think it's interesting. I definitely think you can kind of take into account the land mass issue that like, yeah, you could have three players like one's in California, one's in Maine, one's in Florida where they got out of boot camp, like in the middle of that. But at the same time, I think it is a little bit of that over inflation."

Llama77

00:19:24:39-00:19:42:30

"And I think we're seeing it with a lot

of sports that you pay. You paid a ton during COVID. You have these kind of contracts that are still sitting there and then now you have to break them off. But those players, now that they've earned that much, they feel like they deserve it that much as well. So they're not going out to get a different contract."

Llama77

00:19:42:30-00:20:01:18

"They're maybe not working as hard, like you mentioned, to try and go do that. And I don't even know if it is the. Org's fault because I don't know how much behind the scenes like if the orgs have been offering for boot camps and the players are just like, No, we're not going to do that. We have school, we have other things, we have s.r.l., we're earning more money here."

Llama77

00:20:01:19-00:20:25:19

"Why would we go boot camp? Or if it is actually like the orig saying, okay, well we don't have the money, which is possible as well. I just think it's absolutely massive when you get through the players in person. There's so many communication benefits, there's so many just like bonding benefits that like these teams that are breaking up after maybe one qualified a qualifier together you feel like could just find that cohesion if they boot camp for maybe a month."

YoBoyCue

00:20:25:24-00:20:48:50

"Yeah. And I also feel like I mean I think anyone who has done a boot camp for like in an event, everyone talks about the benefits of it. I think the benefits are undeniable. If from what I saw through the couple of different Twitter posts, because there were quite a few of there were quite a few, and it was an interesting topic for me, honestly."

YoBoyCue

00:20:48:50-00:21:14:48

"So I read through quite a bit of it. Again, it kind of goes back to more of a cultural thing. It just seems like it's not a emphasized point in North America and because it's not an emphasized point in North America, North American problems don't see our North American players don't see a problem with not boot camp. And the few people that seem to have a problem with it."

YoBoyCue

00:21:14:52-00:21:37:59

"I see excuses get brought up, but that's really all they are is excuses because like dog or you're signed to an org where I'm pretty sure you're getting paid, you know, five figures a month, month or close to it. And you're telling me you can't for a month go stay at a hotel and book it like the land facility in a big city where you have good paying in by boot camp."

YoBoyCue

00:21:38:04-00:21:52:56

"Like, I'm not like, come on, dog. You know what I mean? Like, I don't care if I don't care if it's you want the org to be to be the one responsible paying for it. Or you as a competitor, how much do you want it? You know."

Llama77

00:21:53:01-00:22:15:57

"I, I just think it's so tough. I mean, especially with reducing the age for all the s like you're talking about kids that are like, still in middle school, are still in high school that are having to complete their classes. And sometimes like if you take the example of TSM, they're partnered with two zero players and a high school player, one of them which is having to, you know, do high school classes, the other two which are having college classes."

Llama77

00:22:15:57-00:22:33:31

"So that kind of affects it as well that like it's not an X, it is an excuse, but like at the same time it can be sometimes just really tough with younger players to like one, get them out of the house and away for a month, away from school and to like with all those kind of merging schedules."

YoBoyCue

00:22:33:36-00:22:37:07

"Yeah, that's fair. I do think there are some like genuine."

Llama77

00:22:37:12-00:22:38:01

"Yeah."

YoBoyCue

00:22:38:06-00:22:57:57

"I see excuses whether or not excuse like genuine reasons why it could not be happening, especially with the younger player base. I do think that there are several teams though that are genuinely making excuses as to why they aren't. I think

so camp though. So I mean, and it shows I mean, it really shows in the results, man."

YoBoyCue

00:22:57:57-00:23:29:28

"I think the product overall when you looked at even top four compared to EU and a EU and any like final four day was I mean I even final four day the last two days it was the Genji and G2 show until it was Jenji versus G2 and then it was literally just the G2 show. But and that makes you almost have that concern is G2 if you choose that much better than the second place team, who's that much better than the rest of the pack?"

YoBoyCue

00:23:29:33-00:23:33:29

"What does third through eighth do to close that gap? And I don't."

Llama77

00:23:33:34-00:23:34:18

"Yeah."

YoBoyCue

00:23:34:22-00:23:57:32

"It's so weird, right? Because I'm usually on the side of, well, you know, let it cook a little bit. I don't like seeing rosters get together, have one bad event and then go, let's blow this thing up. Because I do think that you have to let things simmer a little bit. But I think historically in North America, we tend to leave things on the stove too long as well."

YoBoyCue

00:23:57:32-00:24:01:22

"So it's about finding that balance definitely is."

Llama77

00:24:01:22-00:24:20:38

"I, I really think for some of these teams it it's just about grinding even more. I think that, you know, the players, again, they get complacent. They say, okay, I've made it to B-plus. Plus I'm good. We we made top 32. I made enough money. I'm going to go chill for a little bit, but I really think you have to keep playing, keep grinding and keep working your hardest."

Llama77

00:24:20:38-00:24:46:55

"And it is kind of weird to have that one team that is a lot better than the others. Like, I always look at the the LCS, which I know you don't follow, but the North American League of Legends League, where all eight teams, it feels like right now are have the ability to to win the championship where in previous seasons it had it hasn't felt like that where there is this one team that kind of is over everybody but it feels weird when there is that one team it feels less competitive."

Llama77

00:24:46:55-00:25:05:04

"It feels less that like it also feels like G2 will eventually run into a wall where they are playing maybe not worse teams than them, but teams that it doesn't feel like it's close. They're not gaining any skills or gaining any extra knowledge from that, and then they start to fall off as well."

YoBoyCue

00:25:05:09-00:25:30:07

"Yeah, should be. Ed is definitely, I feel like as the season go on, it is a concern. It's almost like Genji had that to start off like their run really the kind of had a big explode. Like they're just winning everything and almost kind of felt like out of the the sophomore slump or yeah, I mean maybe this was part of the reason why G2 kind of wanted to conserve some of their honeymoon phase, right?"

YoBoyCue

00:25:30:07-00:26:01:06

"Part of the reason they didn't do so much of the the the off season stuff, they do look good for now. I got to say, I think that they are definitely my favorite heading into this event. I feel like, yeah, I feel like. But first off, what do we even call this? Are we like, I was trying to call them qualifiers, but then I just heard the desks and both anyway and EU just consistently call them the regionals, even though they're put as qualifiers on Wikipedia."

YoBoyCue

00:26:01:06-00:26:27:18

"Because last last year, you know, we had the fall, winter and spring. But they were, you know, the regionals though, you had like, you know, the open qualifier, close qualifier in the invitational. Are we just call these regional events. I don't know. Anyways, that's a rant. Doesn't matter. I do think as far as when you look at it in North America, because the fact that there are

two of the two like that stuck at the top, that we're going to be kind of separate from the rest."

YoBoyCue

00:26:27:18-00:26:48:07

"And both G2 and Genji, that third and fourth place spot means you've got to bring it every qualifier because if you happen to, not because of the light, the point fall off, you're kind of as so well really in the RLC she has points like for like your seeding, you know."

Llama77

00:26:48:12-00:27:05:40

"Yeah. I mean it's very, very important and I honestly think sometimes it always happens with Swiss as much as I love Swiss and I think it's an amazing format, there are always like one or two teams that get screwed either by in a good way or a bad way, that you get three really easy teams or you get three really hard teams."

Llama77

00:27:05:40-00:27:25:35

"So you really do have to bring it every single time. And I'm looking to see which is going to be one of those teams to step up. I think TSM, although an amazing team, if WAVY is not having a good day, they just don't seem to play well. So I think it comes down to that about that consistency where you look at teams like energy who maybe lost step in that uppers, who were a favorite."

Llama77

00:27:25:35-00:27:42:54

"You look at teams like pirates on a boat who have now made two times Swiss in a row. I think it's about again, bringing your A-game every single time because you could be going up against one of these teams or one of these energies that maybe have a little bit shaky of a shake of an opportunity. And if you take them down, that improves your chances."

Llama77

00:27:42:54-00:27:44:13

"So, so much."

YoBoyCue

00:27:44:18-00:28:06:24

"So of when we look at and they again, we know G2, we know Genji, we know they're probably to be consistent even heading into Sun Sunday. Yeah if you had to look at the rest the field going into Swiss who's like the one in me like one or two teams that you're like really looking forward, whether it's just the Swiss or even seeing them get the top four potentially."

Llama77

00:28:06:28-00:28:24:46

"Man, I, I will say I really love the Pirates on the roster. I think they look insane. They went six zero. They were kind of the favorite to win their section of the bracket. But at the same time I mean the pick up of five up was just so crazy to me. And I think they play so well with them."

Llama77

00:28:24:46-00:28:47:22

"They play so good as a squad. Another squad I'm looking at. I mean, is G Buffalo who took down Shopify Rebellion. I think Buffy and G Man, both players that we've seen in the bubble along with also that have kind of started to grow in popularity, started to play in these events and we're seeing it. I think this is one of the teams specifically that we saw that might have split up and split on different teams to play with different people, but kind of got back together for us."

Llama77

00:28:47:22-00:29:03:39

"Yes, but they were grinding in the offseason. They were playing in as many tournaments as they can to get better. So I think those two, although they made it through the the winners bracket, will probably have a possible little bit easier route have a chance to do it. I also think that elite squad I think you mentioned them they just look really, really good."

Llama77

00:29:03:39-00:29:10:28

"Their roster able to take down pipsqueak to move on to the stage I think they are very consistent is the one thing that's good about them."

YoBoyCue

00:29:10:33-00:29:37:40

"You know look eligible for roster because I was trying to figure out like why they sounded familiar right and then so I saw their roster and then I did I'll do my pickups earlier today and I was I was I really wanted to pull Reggie above I unfortunately couldn't have them going through on Swiss. But I think part of that one is because I do feel like even if there's a fall off out of the top two, I feel like three through."

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YoBoyCue

00:29:59:29-00:30:21:40

"Right. But when you look at those last two spots, there's so much I mean, OG didn't look great last year, but I feel like when you look at their roster of Jade not only com like how could you not be motivated to think that they could at least put it together through a Swiss stage with their experience? It had like a good 313, maybe even three two run."

YoBoyCue

00:30:21:41-00:30:45:31

"I don't know if they're a team that can like clean sweep their way, especially knowing that they're in the bottom half of Swiss. They're going to have a tough matchup early on. But, you know, I feel like this qualifier, though, I think at least one of the CRL teams and I know there's technically only like the one that's being like publicized because Akron's like the full roster."

YoBoyCue

00:30:45:36-00:31:10:59

"But I think when you look at University of Akron deleted XD and incorrect don't be surprised if two of those teams end up busting up some brackets. I still think only of the three probably and I'm but would put my money on. I wouldn't put my money on it but if I had to say like of the three of them who I would think is going to like make some noise and actually make top eight, I think it's deleted XD."

YoBoyCue

00:31:11:04-00:31:35:51

"Yeah, I will say and you know not to you know, try and give too much away from my video. I do have all three of them that I just mentioned. I think going to round five like I think all three of them makes a noise which might actually cause some mid split shake ups because all these veteran teams are seeing the young talent doing so well."

Llama77

00:31:35:56-00:31:54:11

"And I think the veteran teams have to be really, really careful. I think this qualifier specifically and the next one is going to be where we're going to see the young talent just go for their throats. I think we saw it with with Omelet, who is kind of more of a bubble team, but there are maybe a little bit more more experienced with, you know, Lyon plays in the crew there."

Llama77

00:31:54:16-00:32:09:45

"They lost to the closer to the academy roster who really, really brought it to them this young roster. I keep bringing it back to them that these young players, they are going to put absolutely everything on the field. They are going to try every new strategy. They're going to make sure that if you have a weakness, they're going to find a way to exploit it."

Llama77

00:32:09:45-00:32:19:36

"So these although these teams that are under organizations, they have been proven and they have been tested, I think they better be careful because these young rosters are going to be out to play."

YoBoyCue

00:32:19:40-00:32:47:40

"All I know is I'm going to be excited for championship Sunday. I love the way that things kind of lay out now where if you do wake up to, you know, kind of watch like the OCA backs up, there's like I think like a two hour break between Aussie and then when Mina starts. But you basically get a whole day of championship Sundays if you're if you're keeping up, especially because I think this week across the globe, I think on all the minor regions being broadcast, they're back, which is super exciting."

Llama77

00:32:47:40-00:33:15:38

"So it's awesome. We love to see that for sure. All right. I think that is all I have to talk about. Rocket League. I think one other. Thank you. There's we were talking about Twitter discussions. We were talking about heated debates. And there is a there was one that popped up on my timeline a little bit recently that all of the Fortnite pros versus all of the Rocket League pros were debating which game is harder to master."

Llama77

00:33:15:43-00:33:23:39

"Six six. That's not an option for not a rocket league."

YoBoyCue

00:33:23:43-00:34:00:49

"I mean I think with how hectic things get and especially build side I feel like the mechanics on Fortnite I would have to I know is in our break rocket league players hearts out how to put it higher. I do think however that Rocket League is an ever expanding game whereas it does seem like on the Fortnite side we've kind of research ceiling on the mechanical aspect, you know, I mean, yeah, I would almost even say that the building side has calmed down."

YoBoyCue

00:34:00:50-00:34:09:07

"It is more just basic like box editing versus what we saw at the end where we saw Fortnite cash Cups a year and a half ago."

Llama77

00:34:09:12-00:34:37:19

"I would I would tend to agree. I think that like just Fortnite in general is harder because any any game that has like a rotating meta where like Rocket league it's kind of the same game. The only thing really rotating meta wise is like cars are like playstyle that you can kind of figure out. I feel like just for Fortnite, it's hard to not only learn all the information and learn all the guns, but with the battle royale, just keeping up with every single update, every single kind of change across the map."

Llama77

00:34:37:19-00:34:54:06

"And I do think building is a really, really tough skill to learn that if you're talking about builds in Fortnite, it is one of the hardest things to learn. I think there's Rocket League though, in general just takes hours that like, you know, okay, this is how to do a flip reset. Now I've got to do it 10,000 times to actually master it."

YoBoyCue

00:34:54:10-00:35:20:56

"So I think that's one of the things that makes I think for me, Rocket League such an amazing spectatorship, right? I watch an end game on Fortnite and I know that there ain't no way I'm ever going to be able to do that. You know what I mean? But maybe I'm just too stubborn to admit that there are some things that the guys at the top in Rocket League do that I probably couldn't do."

YoBoyCue

00:35:21:10-00:35:44:11

"But I'm like, You know what? Give me a couple hundred hours. And I bet you I'm looking at something like that just because from the spectator side, I think that's part of the reason why it's so easy for it. To still continue to attract new viewers is it's simple. Yeah, it's engaging the sense of, like, man, if I and then you try to put in the time, there's always something new to learn."

YoBoyCue

00:35:44:20-00:35:48:34

"And that's kind of goes back to like it's an ever expanding esport, you know."

Llama77

00:35:48:39-00:36:05:55

"Yeah, it is it it does feel that way. And we're still kind of learning, I think, like you said, that Rocket League is physics based and we're still even finding brand new things that are kind of happening with the game, brand new moves that you can kind of do with the like kind of introduction of the wave dash and kind of all you can do with that."

YoBoyCue

00:36:06:00-00:36:17:47

"Is, well, those clips we've been seeing with the increase like wall dashes and a wave dashing and this and that. So I'm not using boost and like that's just now kind of reaching its pinnacle that is."

Llama77

00:36:17:47-00:36:32:38

"Yeah. And we're probably going to find more things along the way that I feel like could make a difference. I always thought it was funny looking back, I remember this Twitter clip, it was like five years ago or something where it's like two professionals that are trying to both hit up flippers and it takes them like 6 minutes to do it."

Llama77

00:36:32:38-00:36:50:04

"So like that just shows you just how far along we have come. But I also think it's kind of interesting, just like for Fortnite in general, there's always that aspect of like randomness where like Rocket League, yes, you get the random spawns at the start of kick off. Yes, you get a random spot if you get dead mode."

Llama77

00:36

:50:04-00:37:02:35

"But like you're not going to have to deal with like a max pool ring and rocket league. You got to know what's happening in the game, but don't have to deal with all those kind of extra things staring at you unless there's that change up in the place that the defense."

YoBoyCue

00:37:02:40-00:37:27:01

"Yeah, I think it is definitely a different especially when you talk about for England is like obviously I think there's more of a team experience. Obviously when you talk about the 3v3 in a rocket league versus a team for Fortnite because you do have to kind of more rely on that English sort of perspective. But I just I think the debate is not close."

YoBoyCue

00:37:27:01-00:37:28:43

"I feel like it really is. Fortnite."

Llama77

00:37:28:48-00:37:44:33

"Yeah, I, I think so too. I think, well, we'll call Fortnite and unfortunately make all the record players. Not directly. Players don't work hard. And I think Rocket League is more of just like a kind of tedious game to grind. I'm not going to lie like you said, you know, you got to do you just got to put in the hours to get it done."

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Llama77

00:37:44:33-00:38:04:37

"So I think we will stay on the factor of about 3 hours, move away from that discussion and move away to possibly the biggest update in Apex history. Q We are talking about changes to Evo Shield's changes towards the map just a little bit. And the biggest thing new perk system for every single legend."

YoBoyCue

00:38:04:42-00:38:35:15

"Yeah, a lot of changes is the reason that we have three weeks off of Aljaz play after play from last weekend. I don't even think scrims are starting up for pros until I think they're talking about maybe next week. I think they're talking about on the 19th or 20th was when they were talking about setting them up. I think when we talk about for the base game of Apex, the legend, change is going to be very, very amazing for the average player."

YoBoyCue

00:38:35:15-00:39:02:29

"I do think we're going to be rather surprised at A-League's level, even though it's going to open up the meta, someone, just because I don't think that there's going to be a very established meta heading in except for maybe like paying Bangalore Bloodhound. Yeah, and a flex like option sort of deal. I don't know how much it changes as far as for age."

YoBoyCue

00:39:02:29-00:39:20:29

"Yes, I want to be curious to see with the armor swaps. Yeah, at least it seems from early kind of a little bit that we've seen. You're not going to be having teams get, you know, hanging out of their plies with, you know, purples. They're probably rolling out with blue shields at best. Probably quite a few white tees."

YoBoyCue

00:39:20:29-00:39:32:17

"Yup. In my white T it, it's going to be a really different game. I got to say. I'm excited to see how the pros play things out to end split number one."

Llama77

00:39:32:22-00:39:51:07

"I think I am as well. And I think that armor change is actually very significant. Like you mentioned, we're probably going to have teams in end zone with the Blue Shield because if you're not picking up those new canisters all around the map, I think you have to do something of like 4000 damage to get your shield up towards the red version."

Llama77

00:39:51:07-00:40:18:59

"So, I mean, if you're grabbing care packages, if you're doing other things, I think it's very important for zone teams. They're not going to be able I feel like to just say, okay, we've loaded up our Puli, let's take Falcon, let's fly straight to God's spot. No, because you have to get those canisters along the way or you're going to end up with a white shield versus everybody else, which is something you definitely do not want, especially in Apex, but talking about kind of the perk system and some of these end game changes, I we have a lot of big changes."

Llama77

00:40:18:59-00:40:37:43

"I think the biggest we got a little bit of a nerf towards towards catalyst that is her name not Kat plus her wall got a little bit shortened the length, the duration got a little bit short, but those were kind of added back into the perks. So you know, it's kind of it's kind of a nerf. But at the same time, if you upgrade the shield back to purple, it's not really."

YoBoyCue

00:40:37:48-00:40:59:54

"I mean, they basically allowed them to have that. She some of the flex changes that we see on a lot of the other characters where it's like reverting nerfs that we've seen to them over time. I got to say I feel bad for the casters having to learn all of those emblems this quick. That way you can see it on the HUD and be able to recall it that quick."

YoBoyCue

00:40:59:54-00:41:21:58

"That's gonna take a little bit of work. I know Matt Spy work on it as well in case I have to do a little bit of apex work here soon, but I, I'm going to make a hot take. Okay. Maybe a little too early. I think we see Wraith get back shifted pretty well in

the mirror. Okay. Thoughts?"

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Llama77

00:41:22:03-00:41:51:52

"I think Wraith has always been viable, to be fair. Like it's been more of, like, a solo play. Like the alt has been beaten out by other type of mobility. Ultimates. But I seriously think she is still, like, relatively like in meta with at any point, if you're running a team that you know, can can use up her her abilities correctly I think as well with her her new updates you know reducing tackle cooldown by 5 seconds that's absolutely insane Antarctica wind up by 20 seconds if you do get that on the fast phase."

Llama77

00:41:51:54-00:42:05:24

"Option number two or you can even get an ultimate called up by 60 seconds in case you want that point really, really quickly. I mean, I just feel so insane for rates to kind of get back in and it feels like, like you said, that you can kind of have that flex. You can kind of have anybody that can fill that role."

Llama77

00:42:05:36-00:42:37:23

"Specifically, though, I want to look at maybe a Pathfinder advantage. I know we are kind of meaning that before, but for the show, nobody's going to really pick these. Right. But both of these now have access to separate ring consoles and survey beacons as their first perk vantage only has access to the ring consoles. But if Pathfinder chooses one of those, it could really make him just an asset to the team because you have the Pathfinder zip, you have the mobility from all the Pathfinder kit, and then all of a sudden you can you can scan rings as well."

YoBoyCue

00:42:37:28-00:42:57:18

"Doug Pathfinder, just be out your zip lining. He be zipping and that's it. Yeah. He you just want to be out here zipping everywhere. Wait, where's he going to be zip into? I don't know. 16 teams, 18 teams still alive. What's Pathfinder going to be doing other than zipping back and forth in a building? What are we doing?"

Llama77

00:42:57:23-00:43:00:57

"I don't know, man. He could fit. He's. He's flex. Come on. Come on."

YoBoyCue

00:43:00:59-00:43:26:01

"I don't know, man. We'll have to wait and see. I do it. You know, I feel like obviously information is very, very key at the eyes of levels of being able to get a plethora of that maybe benefit some teams. I just don't know if I see it. I think maybe. And also I think it's just become so hard."

YoBoyCue

00:43:26:06-00:43:54:04

"Part of it becomes so hard because I do think Bloodhound and Bang are going to be huge staples Which is weird because it felt like Bang was starting to kind of fall off or a little bit. Yeah, I think the I think the catalyst changes are nice enough to make it to where Cat is. It's such an auto pick now, which is nice."

YoBoyCue

00:43:54:09-00:43:56:58

"Do they also make some changes to the conduit or my trip?"

Llama77

00:43:57:03-00:44:17:03

"Yes. Her her healing time. It's kind of weird. It's it's a little bit of a buff, a little bit of a nerf. I think an end zones is going to be a little bit worse. I think it's specifically that when she goes to like AMP, somebody shields up, it takes a longer for the bar to fill up, but it lasts for a longer period of time."

YoBoyCue

00:44:17:07-00:45:02:39

"Okay. So you don't get just like that instant boost of sheer for the blogger right now. Right? Right. I mean, I do feel the armor changes is kind of like a nerf to conduit in a way anyways, right? Because you aren't getting as much potential value on a content because I feel like that was where we were seeing Conduit really used the most question, Do you think because of the fact that can test aren't so much of a 5050 gamble because you're not worrying about am I landing on a purple shield or am I landing on a white with a peashooter right."

YoBoyCue

00:45:02:43-00:45:11:29

"Do

you think that we see can test become more prevalent or less prevalent?"

Llama77

00:45:11:34-00:45:31:44

"Hey, I have always been of the mindset that, like, contests are very, very good because every team should have a good TV that at the at the core of Apex, you could talk about team composition, you could talk about rotations all day, but it's going to come down to your team fighting skills. And if you can't team, if you can't hold your line, then you don't deserve that."

Llama77

00:45:31:44-00:45:48:03

"Puli And I think that is just the natural selection of the game that the better teams, if there's a if there's a better API, they should fight for it. They should, absolutely. Even though it might risk a game if you can hold that API and maybe stake it at the beginning of a season to hold it for the rest of the season."

Llama77

00:45:48:14-00:46:04:37

"It's absolutely massive. And for those teams that may not have the team fighting power as those top teams, it's okay to take a lesser player. And I think for them it's okay to maybe back off a little bit, say, okay we let them have an easier rotation, we'll play a different boy, but we'll at least not be killed off drop."

Llama77

00:46:04:37-00:46:20:16

"And I think it is really healthy for teams to just say, okay, this is as much as I love, you know, having, you know, a map to see where every team is dropping. I want to see people change that up. I want to see people just like saying, okay, we're going here and then land somewhere else and then can test somebody else and spice up the game."

Llama77

00:46:20:16-00:46:21:31

"In those early drops."

YoBoyCue

00:46:21:36-00:46:59:58

"I see a team like Alliance who I feel like is one of the best three three teams in the world. Now, obviously things have changed with the whole Uki retirement and picking up a lucky but I think I'm lucky enough that with August is still like a disgusting swine right. Yeah, but when I see a team like Alliance who generally has not been afraid to contest if I'm an alliance, I think with the armored changes, I'm I think I'm okay with contesting six out of six drops because I know that there's a very good probability that five of those I'm getting three points off the rim."

YoBoyCue

00:47:00:03-00:47:28:39

"And then I add in my continued placement on top of that afterwards, right? Yeah. So I am going again. I'm going to be kind of curious to see when we get to game day. I think it's like March like 10th and 11th or something like that. It's good to see if we up see more contests, especially from the better fighting teams who maybe aren't necessarily where we expect them to be on the leaderboard."

Llama77

00:47:28:44-00:47:43:04

"I think it's important to fight as well. I mean, we already talked about those those Evo changes. If you're not fighting early or if you're not fighting at all, you're going to be in a lot of trouble. So that early fight could get your entire team up to blue. You grab some canisters along the way, all of a sudden you're up to purple by end game."

Llama77

00:47:43:04-00:47:54:46

"And then if you're farming correctly, you should be able to get towards red. But I think, again, only a few teams are going to be able to get towards that red marker. We'll have to see how the contests go. Like you said, it's going to take some time to simmer, time to kind of get a grasp of this matter."

Llama77

00:47:54:46-00:48:22:12

"I really want to talk about kind of the big new to say, perk changes that are happening with some of these legends. Specifically, we got a lifeline with a cell for as we have a new castle with the 250 HP on both his tactical option and his big at castle all segments we've got a cost cycle increase by 50% option we got Gib bubble small give you bubbles 25% size but for 25% of the cooldown you got as well."

Llama77

00:48:22:19-00:48:35:57

"The new falling stars passive for Watson, which I think is one of the most interesting where if you have a give you all Bangalore or something that you intercept you intercept grenade it or drop an arc star right below the pylon for you to use. How cool is."

YoBoyCue

00:48:36:01-00:49:01:00

"That's pretty dope. You know, I'm not going to lie. We started talking about the bubbles. I just thought about your DMS. All that matters is big bubble give you build bubbles and little bit giving bubbles. But yeah, I think a lot of changes coming down the pipe that again you look at the 50% decrease on an old for caustic and we know that for cost IG caustic is strongest when there's only one or two cost sticks in the lobby."

YoBoyCue

00:49:01:04-00:49:22:28

"So if you are the one or two teams that decide that, you know, we want to get a little stinky up in here, it technically makes your composition a little bit stronger. So I do think because there is some of that with a few of the different legends, I think I think that's going to be really exciting to kind of see that again."

YoBoyCue

00:49:22:28-00:49:51:09

"That third, I think it is it is going to be a cute legend meta and maybe I'm wrong on it being the bang blood, but kind of early indicators, even from what I've seen through a couple of streams I've been through, granted, I'm kind of across a couple of different titles right now, so I haven't spent too much time in Apex though, because we were in a couple of we break, but it seems like Bang Blood is kind of like the main fit for the first two."

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YoBoyCue

00:49:51:14-00:50:06:12

"I feel though, for really aggressive teams, her horizon still going to be yeah, a very viable option especially considering one of your options is like a 50% cooldown on the old 4 seconds 30 seconds percentage that is."

Llama77

00:50:06:12-00:50:07:09

"But yeah."

YoBoyCue

00:50:07:13-00:50:25:55

"So I think it's like 30%. But still that's because it's a 90 seconds on her. I think I could be. So it's like a third. So it's like a 33% difference. That's I mean for a fighting team to get that much sucking power every basically 60 seconds, that's pretty insane than it is."

Llama77

00:50:25:55-00:50:43:24

"I do got to ask kind of about end game for a second because two big changes that I want to kind of focus on. I talked about the cost to call it that you have an option to pick it, it expands the costs go up by 50% more volume and the crypto ultimate also has a perk where you can expand it by 25% of the radius."

Llama77

00:50:43:24-00:51:00:33

"And I was watching a clip and you can see if you know the base of the firing range. It was encompassing from gun side to gun side up like so far that like if you're a tight end zone and that crypto, it hits you, that is hitting 18 teams. I'm not going to lie."

YoBoyCue

00:51:00:37-00:51:24:57

"Yeah, but is it going to get to a spot where it can get off pause before it getting shot down? Right Like that's the big issue because these are the pros are pretty good about that. Yeah well for sure see crypto because we always have a pact to watch. I don't know if we'll see really too much in EMEA or any honestly, don't be surprised to see a classic though."

YoBoyCue

00:51:24:57-00:51:30:02

"We will we will version the a classic probably in North America."

Llama77

00:51:30:07-00:51:49:01

"I think. So. I think we're also going to see actually a lot of Maggie, I think with the new fireball ultimate, I think it has a possibility to, you know, continue bouncing, continue doing a lot of damage. I think specifically, though, yeah, like you said it caustic, it's better when there are less of them. I think there's a possibility that we do see a Gibraltar I was playing."

Llama77

00:51:49:06-00:52:05:09

"Okay. I'm a little bit biased, but at the same time, I was playing a little bit of him last night. And the smaller bubble again, it's a ten second up time. It is a little bit reduced in the size, but it's only a 22 second cooldown, which isn't actually too bad for a ten second up time for the bubble."

Llama77

00:52:05:09-00:52:18:46

"I think it provides a lot of protection. I also think there's going to be wattson teams that are already one at running Watson that you know, you get the age, throw your way and then all of a sudden you're gifted five arc stages. You're like, it's my birthday. Now we get to let Enzo because we have a billion arc stars."

Llama77

00:52:18:46-00:52:20:06

"So I think it'll be interesting."

YoBoyCue

00:52:20:11-00:52:48:05

"I, I got to say, the gamer nerd in me is going to very much enjoy watching the new Apex legend as someone who has watched, you know, hero shooters and MOBAs and stuff like that, where you kind of get to change the game as the game goes along, you know, I mean, like that adds a new layer that's getting added with Apex and I think it's going to be fun watching teams over the next couple of months, even though especially the next couple of weeks while they're off."

YoBoyCue

00:52:48:05-00:53:13:18

"But I don't think teams are really going to have fully figured stuff out until we're right around land. Time for split one, which I mean, usually around land

time, there's a new matter that gets shaken up anyways, so who knows? But I think we are going to see that it's going to be a more open matter, even if there is one or two hard pick legends."

YoBoyCue

00:53:13:22-00:53:35:19

"Yeah, I think it's going to make up some for some big changes, which I think when you look at Apex Legends is going to do one of two things. It is either going to shift up some storylines, hopefully, especially at the top, because I don't know about you, man. As much as I love Dark Zero and TSM, I'm tired to see them at the top."

YoBoyCue

00:53:35:24-00:53:59:33

"Guys, I just want I want a news story dog like I, even if it's a new team contesting with one of those teams, you know, I mean, granted, as someone who's been and you know, this llama, I have been the resident and a guy that's been saying that Apex out doesn't get enough respect. I'm finally looking like a guy right now with the way that boys and dogs here are looking."

YoBoyCue

00:53:59:38-00:54:18:42

"But no, I want to see something new like I do like seeing. And, you know, in L.A, they play a good team sitting in a, you know, I mean, you mentioned this guy is she was an lc q team last year who I think still has some ability to move up the list because they have only played three days as opposed to some of the teams with four right."

YoBoyCue

00:54:18:46-00:54:42:37

"But I just, I want something new. So I would love to see that all of this freshness give us something new. But here's the bad news. What's up is if TSM in Dark Zero are actually this good and it comes up to one, one of these teams is just able to develop metals like we've seen both of them do and they're able to figure it out."

YoBoyCue

00:54:42:43-00:54:54:27

"It's going to be the same storyline and come wintertime it's going to be Dark Zero and TSM and then there's everybody else and it's just like, I'm so over it, dog. Like I just went in."

Llama77

00:54:54:32-00:55:12:05

"Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's kind of the same story over and over. I will say the E sport is relatively young where you look at something like a League of Legends where you can say, okay, the T one story is getting old. They've won a bunch of world championships now. But that sport has also been, you know what, ten, 11 years old as well."

Llama77

00:55:12:05-00:55:25:31

"So I think a change is needed. And I think there is an interesting thing with all of these new perks that some of the legends get Cooldowns now off of NOx, which importantly I'm looking at Pathfinder, I'm looking at Revenant. So if."

YoBoyCue

00:55:25:35-00:55:26:29

"The Pathfinder."

Llama77

00:55:26:29-00:55:44:27

"Doc okay, listen, listen, okay, It's just to make a general point, okay? A couple of them have that tactical reset off of NOx and for Revenant, I'll also I'll tell Alto off a revenant who we've seen a little bit may be more in that professional level. It could be absolutely huge if the team fight is once again your focus."

Llama77

00:55:44:27-00:56:00:05

"If you once again are not playing as three players, all of a sudden you give over one pick. The Revenant is flying away and then he's flying back in your face, fully reset. The team is there to back them up. So I think team fighting is going to be just that much more important. And with that shakeup, I could see teams running in ranks."

Llama77

00:56:00:05-00:56:09:34

"Some of those legends with not cooldowns that you know, you're taking it 3v3 somewhere out in the field. Then you get a knock. All of a sudden it changes the entire team. Fight."

YoBoyCue

00:56:09:39-00:56:41:24

"I hope we get some changes, man. I really do, because I think when we look at the good news, when you do, I do. Got to say this. When you look at the top of a battle royale and you see two teams that have that continued success that they have, I think it shows that regardless of the fact that there's orange involved, that consistency obviously means something because you have the dark zeros, the Tsm's, and even to the extent right now under the name of LG."

YoBoyCue

00:56:41:24-00:57:01:03

"But you had the Swedes in the world who are also consistently up there. You can even say the same thing about Moist last year Boys is one of the best consistently performing teams. Their lowest performance was like, what, a 10th 11th? I think something that I think is a ten I think is like six, six, ten are six, seventh, 10th or something like that."

YoBoyCue

00:57:01:08-00:57:10:19

"So when you have teams that are able to show that much consistency, it does mean that it's not just luck to win in an event, you know? I mean."

Llama77

00:57:10:24-00:57:26:40

"Yeah, it definitely takes lots, lots of practice. I, I want to do one final thing I think before we close it out here today, you kind of said Bangalore bloodhound is how you're looking for your team composition. I, I want to throw out my personal team composition, which I think works even better. It's the comp. I played mine when I played professional."

Llama77

00:57:26:40-00:57:49:21

"No doubt. Pathfinder, give me Ash and Fuze. I think Fuze is still very, very underrated. Fuze has, by the way, never received a nerf. He is only ever receive buffs buff after buff after buff. I tell you, my roommate bro, he started playing Fuze as soon as he came out. He's just like, I'm living the dream buff after buff after buff after buff."

Llama77

00:57:49:26-00:57:58:43

"I still think it's a strong composition. I think got a big buff with their arcs there. I want to hear you what your dream composition is."

YoBoyCue

00:57:58:48-00:58:31:38

"my dream composition, So I have always wanted to see the What's in Newcastle combo. Like, truly get it shine. Like back when in before Moyes got picked up in those steel Berger at the time then got picked up by Moyes at the start of last year. Looks really good running that competition. Yeah, I mean I think it would probably be the Watson new our Watson Newcastle and then you got to throw bang in there because you need it in the in today's game."

Llama77

00:58:31:43-00:58:49:48

"Look I like to see it. I'm definitely down for it. I think the bang is going to be interesting. I think Watson is just going to be gifted. Arc stars over to the team mate. I think it's going to be a fun season nonetheless. I got to say, lots of stuff happening with Arceus and OGs. Q I'm excited to see in these upcoming weeks what happens."

YoBoyCue

00:58:49:53-00:59:10:01

"Yeah, we got a lot of stuff going on there and we're to have a whole bunch of stuff to start talking about with Valorant coming up here as well. We got the VCT kick off starting this weekend, so actually if I have to start talking about next week as well. But man, this was, you know, I know we've had some troubles being able to get together for the first one, especially with Nic being late today."

YoBoyCue

00:59:10:01-00:59:30:23

"My goodness gracious. I give a big shout out to our producers. Put in the work in the back. Now, he wasn't actually home late today. I'm not going to say who it was, but it definitely wasn't me. No, but we are definitely going to need to be doing this more often. Lama have to find a time to do this more consistently."

YoBoyCue

00:59:30:23-00:59:40:48

"The meltdown was an absolute blast. I think that wraps things up for me, but if there's anything else you want to say, go ahead and throw it on in there and get us up on up

out of here, my friend."

Llama77

00:59:40:53-00:59:57:34

"Now shout out to the people and make sure to sign up for our Frost Strike a league event over on Monday. We got some big events planned. We got lots of hundred dollar Rocket League events here coming in the future. So make sure to get your Rocket League team signed up. That's going to be all for Q and Laura, thank you all so much for tuning into the meltdown."

Llama77

00:59:57:43-01:05:16:50

"And remember, stay frosty."





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