Recorded 28 February 2024
Broadcast 1 March 2024
"Llama77
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What's going on, everybody. Welcome back to Frost Esports here. We got the new content piece, the Meltdown episode number two here with Lamar and Cue. Cue How are you doing today?
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"YoBoyCue
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Yo, big chillin, man. It's the middle of the day, so, you know, kind of relaxed back. But we've we've got us a full plate here. So, you know, I think that's how we get down and do what I do, you know?
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"Llama77
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yeah, I'm excited. We got lots to talk about. And the biggest thing I think on the table is our deals. Yes, we we have our third open qualifier up on the table for all these regions coming up here soon. The third and final qualifier before we learn some of those teams that are going to be going off to regionals, going off to maybe play for that land.
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"YoBoyCue
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Yeah, it's interesting, right? Because we obviously we have the kind of that the one region that's kind of offset from everyone. So let's talk about that one first as they wrapped up, split or not split number two, and I was about to call it regional number two, we did this last time, are we calling them qualifier or regional?
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"YoBoyCue
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I don't know. But the French region... kidding the EU, although it is a lot of French teams that do sit up at the top one Karmine Corp looking really, really good. I mean they continue to really look dominant over in their region, but I feel like we finally got to see these really stepping up. I feel like one of the things that's interesting and we'll talk about here in a second, but with the new style of the bracket and how things work out as far as getting people through Swiss and everything and then setting up the best of one in the playoffs and all that, it feels like right now.
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"YoBoyCue
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It's all depends on when you play. Karmine Corp is like the real answer. You know, I mean, so it's weird because now it's almost at this point where like if you look at the rankings after number two T vitality it could be in a situation where they're not making land. Can you imagine that? You have a perfect split to finish off the spring last year and then you don't make land for a split one the following year.
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"YoBoyCue
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That's it's it's it's rough out here in the street thumb.
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"Llama77
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Yeah I mean that's pretty surprising And you talk about some other surprises like gentlemen it's I mean I think a team that kind of pleasantly surprised all of us in their ranking right now. There are a couple of points ahead of that fourth place position. But you talk about teams like Team Vitality, Oxygen, E-sports that are all below that line right now.
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"Llama77
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And it does really surprise me that, you know, it's kind of like we talked about last week. It's this new guard of teams starting to come in, starting to show the not the old players, but the players that have, you know, been here for a while, that they still got it in the back of pocket for themselves. We'll be exciting going here into this final third one.
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"Llama77
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I don't know who do you who do you think is actually going to make above that line?
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"YoBoyCue
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It's tough, right? Because I so personally, I feel like for for me, I have been underwriting magnifico, like, far too long. I don't know if I can count them out because they've been looking really good now. But the same thing could even be said for gentlemen. You were just bringing them up for like a really good, you know, squad coming in here.
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"YoBoyCue
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How calming course already And it feels like Breeze is just about in. I think all they have to do is like make Swiss or something like that. Like it's a pretty easy qualification for them. It's so tough. But again, I think it's really all about where you play Karmine Corp, which is why it's tough for vitality, where they've played themselves into.
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"YoBoyCue
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Right now you are number five, so there is that potential that you could be sitting and playing them relatively early. It's it's, it's, it's tough, but I think vitality just might miss out.
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"Llama77
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I think it's possible. I mean, I also think it's possible that we we actually might have like a bigger surprise of one of these other teams that are a little bit lower on the leaderboard, maybe performing a little bit better. I look at a team like Moist Sports, they're a little bit too far down to probably catch right back up.
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"Llama77
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But, you know, a fan favorite team like that, some other teams like that kind of in that mix that, you know, if they have a good qualifier, if they can win through winners bracket and if they can find a way to maybe avoid Karmine Corp towards the end and then maybe they can pick up some points.
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"YoBoyCue
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Well, I think the tough thing right now, when you look at it, for a team like Moyes with where they're sitting, right, even if you win one of the qualifiers, you're only getting 16 points added, right? So with the fact that you're sitting down at nine points right now, it puts you at 25, you figure calming corpse already over that line.
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"YoBoyCue
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Timbers is already there. You've got to expect some of these other teams to fall really early. And I think that's even like not making Swiss type early. So maybe a little far down for Moyes for me. But that is what's so interesting about around that four or five line, right? Because you mentioned not only vitality but oxygen in two of those teams between them gentlemen and Magnifico, that's four teams that have all done pretty well.
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"YoBoyCue
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I think between them for the most part, have made Sunday Oxygen didn't obviously the first time around. Right. But they've had decent performances. Someone's going to have to have a bad day and you just don't know who it is and vitality to. I want to give credit to Calming Corp because Karmine Corp has been looking really good. Yeah, well, they shut Zen down to zero goals in their series, something that's never been done.
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"YoBoyCue
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So how does team Vitality recover from that going into this regional? Because they know that they have to play a Karmine Corp early in Swiss and then maybe has to play bides in Suez at some point to where a team like Oxygen, whose life depends on having a very good Swiss back and get good placement for the bracket.
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"YoBoyCue
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And I feel like they're going to be well, it seems it has a target on their back.
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"Llama77
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I think so too. And I think it's kind of all that mental philosophy of like, yes, you played the team multiple times. Maybe now you have that VAR review footage, maybe you can go back and look at it. But at the same time, I don't think Karmine Corp is going to be the team that's like, okay, we're qualified, we're stop it and we're taking the foot off the gas.
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"Llama77
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I know, guys, you guys get out of this series now, they are slamming that thing into the ground and they're going to want to win all three so they can look as dominant as some of the teams in the other regions have. So I think it's going to be really hard for these other teams. I think it's going to probably come down to luck on the bracket draw is is a large possibility.
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"Llama77
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But at the other day you have, what, five teams, six teams tied here for seventh place that could possibly jump on up if they get a maybe a second or third place, it could really shake up.
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"YoBoyCue
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Yeah, I think the big thing right now is you would prefer if you are if you're trying to get through the Swiss, you've got to get through in second or third place if you want to control your destiny, because I think we can all assume Karmine Corp is going to be able to get through to us right there.
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"YoBoyCue
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Playing on Championship Sunday. I think Battier is done played in 24 straight of these things, so they're probably going to be playing on Sunday, right? So then they go into that number one seed. So if you are a vitality and oxygen, if you can come in in that second, third seed, now you're on the opposite side of the bracket from.
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"YoBoyCue
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Right. So then you don't have to face them until you're playing in the grand final. So you can kind of control your destiny a little bit or, I don't know, maybe if you feel like you can risk it for the biscuit, maybe try and push your Swiss to the limit and then come in in that like sixth or seventh seed, you know.
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"YoBoyCue
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So you're playing five rounds with Swiss then in that case, I think it's more of being lucky and kind of falling in the opposite side of the bracket. So it's kind of that interesting dynamic for some of these teams. Going into qualifier three, you can kind of control where you're at in that final best of one bracket, but means you have to show up every single day.
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"YoBoyCue
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You've had to show up the first week, but then you got to show up for Swiss and then you've got an ace to show up. Obviously, when you're in a best of one or sorry, single elimination, you know?
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"Llama77
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Absolutely. You do you to make sure at every single moment you are you were there to play because this is the final one, like we said that you know, before that. RC Yes, Major Number one, if you want to get there, this is your last chance to try and do it. So obviously you'll have the back half where, you know, after Major one, all these teams will have a chance to regroup.
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"Llama77
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You have four or five and six of those open qualifiers and then that chance to go to ask us, major number two. But I got to say it was spicy and.
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"YoBoyCue
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I was pretty.
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"Llama77
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Spicy as well. I mean, G2 has been dominant, G2 has been really dominant. It's kind of the same thing as EU, where there has been one team that looks a little bit better than more than a little bit better a lot, a little bit better than the rest of the teams. But again, there's that close kind of leaderboard right around that fourth place spot with a ton of teams at 15 points.
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"YoBoyCue
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Yeah, it's interesting. I feel like almost every region has the one team that kind of sits at the top. And then there's kind of that gap between. But yeah, when you look at North America, especially the rankings right now, knowing that they get four spots for land and it all gets solved this weekend, G2 is already in Gen Z sitting at 24 points.
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"YoBoyCue
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I'm pretty sure they just have to get I think that is as long as they secure Sunday, I think they're in, I'm pretty sure. And even if they don't, you would still need like m 80 to win in O.G. to get second or something weird like that for them to still like. and then like Luminosity get third or something like that for like there'd be a weird flop around GenG is pretty well in and luminosity you can say at 20 at 21 points also pretty well solid but you got Dignitas M80 OG We were talking about it last week.
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"YoBoyCue
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Baby harp on the ship, Pirates on a boat, maybe going to land. Let's go. But even you can include in space Asian gaming NRG so many teams are in be buying that for a spot.
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"Llama77
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Absolutely are and I think it really does come to come down to like you mentioned luminosity they had a little bit inconsistent open qualifier number one only picking up six points. So if they do that again, that's not going to feel good. That's definitely not going to get them in the top four and they could possibly lose that spot.
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"Llama77
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But you mentioned all those teams right below them. It's not that it's like a nobody teams we're talking about maybe OGE Energy, Shopify, TSM, TSM, of course, picking up their new roster, but still TSM and deleted XD orgs that are like no one in the scene with pirates on a boat. So a lot of them are just going to have to miss it and it really is unfortunate, but I think at the end of the day it just comes down to performance and you talk about teams like energy.
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"Llama77
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Energy always has energy curse, but maybe hasn't played as consistent as they've wanted to, maybe hasn't won as many Swiss rounds as they've wanted to. So I think for pirates on a boat and other teams like that and Dignitas, who is one point ahead, they have a bright future here to try and enter this weekend.
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"YoBoyCue
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I'm trying to think as far as for those squads. Right. So top team on a qualifier gets, what, 16 points and it's 12 for second, third and fourth get nine. Is that right. Yeah. So it's a three and then is a three point difference between fifth through eight. So basically if any of those teams that are around that fourth through Yeah.
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"YoBoyCue
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Eighth.
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"Llama77
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Eight.
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"YoBoyCue
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Eight, nine, whatever it is, if you get yourself top four and everyone else is above you in the rankings. Other than that, you know, six teams that are all mixed together, then I think you're at least secure it in. So top four is the goal.
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"Llama77
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Yeah, I definitely think it is and I think it's interesting as well. I think luminosity now that look at that it might be actually safe that if they just make that first try the Swiss even if they make the second round they should be pretty fine. But now like you said, you have to perform better than those other teams that are around you.
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"Llama77
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And I think it will actually come down to that Swiss again, because, again, it's not just that, okay, we made it through Swiss, we made it to the finals. It's like, how well did you do? Like, are you are you a three and two team or are you a three and one team with a really good differential that could get yourself maybe that early win and then maybe get that surprise of the day?
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"Llama77
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Because if you play G2, if you perform well enough to get top eight, but not well enough to avoid G2, what's it all for?
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"YoBoyCue
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Yeah, I feel like for Luminosity, as long as they finish like top, I think it's top 11. Essentially they're fine, so they don't necessarily need to make it to Sunday, but I think that would be what, fourth round of Swiss. Yeah. And then and then falling out and falling out in five. No, falling out in five would still be 12 through 14.
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"YoBoyCue
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But that's kind of the marker where they need to be. But yeah, luminosity is there, dude. Honestly, the race for fourth is kind of wild. And again, this is where it kind of gets to this whole point of I mean, you do control your destiny. Like look at the qualifiers when you look at like the Swiss stages, right?
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"YoBoyCue
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Yeah. There's been different people who kind of get through the early portion. Like obviously G2 and Maddie were the ones from the last one or the last two that have kind of gotten through right off the rip in three. Yeah, Yeah. But when you look at the ones behind them, like in that third and fourth and fifth spot, those have been different teams in both regionals.
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"YoBoyCue
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And remember, third place is the team that sits on that opposite side of the bracket from G2. Because I do feel like Jenji has shown at times that as much as they sit, I think in second spot, like if you were to like do a tier list for an eight, I don't think that there is separation from that like three through like 6 to 7 pack is big enough where it's like, Jenji for sure wins.
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"YoBoyCue
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I think that it's still close in the game. It's a coin toss, basically. I do think G2 is strong enough where you basically say, unless you catch them on a bad day, they're winning, right? so if you can get yourself into that third spot, put yourself on the other side of the bracket, catch Genji off, get yourself top two, then you're really cheap.
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"Llama77
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That's very true. And I think, like you said, it's the gap between Genji and the other teams is not as big as the gap to Genji and G2 or all the other teams in G2. That G2 is that kind of powerhouse that's looming over everybody. But I think it's going to be, you know, exciting here at the end of the day and as well kind of for not only that fourth place spot, but for the second and third as well, that that that will probably matter a little bit.
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"Llama77
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But a luminosity if you can catch Genji on that bad day or if you can get that higher placement that then maybe you can steal that spot and get up to that second place and have a better finish off in the future. In that major one. I'm going to be excited though. I really am excited for, you know, RC has to be back excited for these this third open qualifier to get in and and be excited for major one to come through.
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"YoBoyCue
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Yeah I feel like when you look at that like the race for fourth right now I mean it's kind of a product of the new system right? Like everyone's kind of talking about the inconsistencies of it, but like NRG is only like barely in that race because of the title. They missed that. They missed the one Swiss, right?
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"YoBoyCue
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Like, so I feel like as much as we've seen people complain about the changes in the structure this year, right. Like you don't have the guaranteed top eight and all that. They get locked in for the future and you know your top one teams still play at the end. I feel like from a spectator's point of view, this is kind of what it was built for was so the last event like you really don't know for those last couple of spots until Sunday's done, you know.
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"Llama77
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And I like that it brings excitement does you know, it brings excitement to the players. It makes them not like, okay, work a place that we can just sit away and make sure we have our spot that you got to work for every single moment. But our process is getting exciting to you. We both were kind of wondering the most interesting region.
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"Llama77
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We got a lot of regions playing in their final open qualifier. Number three, like you said, to qualify for that major, what's your opinion on who you think is the most interesting region right now?
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"YoBoyCue
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So the most interesting region I'm going to give you a1a and B, All right. I'm going to give you a1b just because I want you all to come hang out with your boy over in SSA. So I'm hanging out. But but well, one day, I think for most interesting region, for your boy, it really is over in O.C., I feel like when you look at the rankings kind of going into a lot of these things, it's pretty well settled for most of the regions.
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"YoBoyCue
00:16:07:55 - 00:16:30:56
I would argue Sam is pretty close for the same region and maybe you might be able to make that argument, I don't know. But for me, OCD, when you look at Powers kind of been at a head above the rest, you know, they're already qualified 35 points, but you have cheesy sports club gremlins and quick trip pioneers all sitting at 21 points and OCD only gets two spots.
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"YoBoyCue
00:16:30:56 - 00:16:49:28
So only one of those three is going to move on. And if for some reason we happen to see something happen where ground zero or concours mania has come in and not only finish top two, but find a way to take the number one spot from power. Those two are would probably be the teams playing in the grand finals.
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"YoBoyCue
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Even they could find themselves securing that second spot. So you're talking about realistically a five team race for a one spot. It's unfortunate that I know that a lot of our viewers, it's like in the middle of the night. Most of you guys aren't up during those delinquent hours. I will be. But make sure you catch the VODs because it's it's going to be a banger of a weekend.
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"Llama77
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I think it is. And I think any region that has less than four spots is really exciting because you're battling for a limited number of space. I mean, even in Asia Pacific, there's two teams that are kind of still vying for that top spot, that old crew that they have in the region. So I could I could make arguments, I feel like for any region but me personally, because I have ties to North America, I think it's still the most interesting region.
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"YoBoyCue
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I just love.
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"Llama77
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The thought of like either in EU or in a G2 or Kaman Corp falling. I know that sounds crazy. I know it probably won't happen, but at the same time, just getting to see these teams try new strategies or try new ways to beat them, see if they can find them on an off day, see if they can find a weakness going to this major.
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"Llama77
00:17:53:07 - 00:18:02:35
And I especially think with both these two regions, Europe and North America, that battle for fourth, it's just like the battle in Oceana for that second place are going to have so many shakeups this weekend.
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"YoBoyCue
00:18:02:40 - 00:18:26:02
I think what's interesting when you look at talking about seeing if a car mean corporate G2 will fall, we've seen Car Mean Corp drop series when we weren't expecting them to in the earlier parts of qualifiers. They definitely seem to have that clutch g when it's time to kick in. So I'll be interested to see. Let's not forget the coach Farah switched from vitality, which all of a sudden might not be Make it land.
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"YoBoyCue
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We'll talk about that too. But Farah is went from having a perfect split on vitality and currently in the middle of a perfect split with car mean corp Kind of impressive.
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"Llama77
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It is that that is very very impressive I think that you know the shakeups in coaches is one thing we don't often talk about that you know that we always talk about players. Okay, we got the big names moving over here, splitting up. But coaches are I feel like such a big part of the Rocket League scene that we don't often see because they're not usually mentioned on screen.
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"Llama77
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I mean, most actual like viewers don't know about them. So I think it is really, really interesting now that that coach has found a little bit possibly more more value on a different team after switching, which is kind of crazy.
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"YoBoyCue
00:19:08:47 - 00:19:32:09
Well, I know from listening in to he was recently I think it's the Chalk Cast podcast. He's not a recent one. The bit like bigger Rocket League podcast. And it doesn't surprise me listening to it from seeing from afar like Calming Corp, but it sounds like the team environment, not just with the team, but from an org standpoint as a whole with Calming Corp is just on a whole nother level, which I mean, kind of makes sense to me.
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"YoBoyCue
00:19:32:09 - 00:19:57:37
I feel like Calming Corp when you look at what they only came around in 2020 or something. I mean there are only like a four or five year org and their following is absolutely nuts. I mean, we see that the EU Championship Sunday is sitting at like 23,000 and the watch party for Calming Corp sit it like 60 70,000 like just of their fans alone.
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"YoBoyCue
00:19:57:37 - 00:20:10:31
I mean the blue wall always goes crazy when we see the European lands right? They're building something special there. And I do think it's not just in rocket League. We'll talk about it briefly later, but we're even CNBC. It's either bigger and stuff.
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"Llama77
00:20:10:31 - 00:20:30:18
Alvey does seem like a yeah, all the way around. It seems like they have got teams that are succeeding all the way through Rocket League, lots of fun. We got lots of action packed for this weekend and lots of teams going to be decided. But you talk about Van, I guess let's switch gears on over to it. We got some of the VCT stuff going on all around the world.
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"Llama77
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Cue Tell me a little bit about that.
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"YoBoyCue
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Well, you know what, we we started talking about you before, but how about this time Morales flipped the script? Let's kind of go come back to the home and native. Let's talk about Americas matter because just a little bit unlike Pacific, where we already have our Madrid qualifiers, we're only just now going to be heading into our Final Four where we one find out our two qualifiers, but also find out who is going to have the higher seed between those two.
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"YoBoyCue
00:20:58:55 - 00:21:23:39
That happens this weekend. So our top four teams that moved on just to kind of catch everyone up real quick, evil geniuses, loud NRG Sentinels hits that one more time. I don't think anyone's surprised about evil geniuses Loud NRG It hurts me to say sentinels. I think last time we met I was kind of saying I wasn't believe in this and hype.
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"YoBoyCue
00:21:23:43 - 00:21:48:00
I'ma tell you right now a llama. After watching the games, I'm coming around. First off, all of the games from group B felt like instant bangers. I mean, the opening matches, the winners match the elimination match even between 700 Thieves was amazing. Yeah. I think we're seeing not just in name, but across the board. I think this is going to be wide open this year.
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"Llama77
00:21:48:05 - 00:22:04:57
I think so as well. I think you go to this matchup, you think, okay, they've got Demon one energy, they're they're an automatic winner. We'll talk about this a little bit later with our new segment. But the the actual betting line is 78% favor towards NRG. But at the same time, I'm seeing what you're seeing. I'm seeing an improvement from the Sentinels.
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"Llama77
00:22:04:57 - 00:22:25:08
I'm seeing good team like cohesion and good team play. It seems like throughout all their games. And I think that might be the best series of the week and that one is going to be a really, really good one. You talk about evil geniuses and loud as well. I think loud. It's just they're always a storied org. It's always nice to see them with the Americas, kind of including the the Brazilian and stuff region.
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"Llama77
00:22:25:08 - 00:22:29:51
So it's kind of cool to see all these different teams from not just literally the United.
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"YoBoyCue
00:22:29:51 - 00:22:56:06
States all and I mean, loud just might have the best eagle in the world right now. I think with losing as space and then still seeing how dominant this loud squad can be. I mean, we already kind of knew that Zarek was a very strong IGL, has led this team through a lot in the past. But then you kind of take all this, is it still come out saying, no, no, no, we're still a step above the rest is really impressive.
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"Llama77
00:22:56:11 - 00:23:14:24
I think it is, yeah. And to have that ability to keep on battling throughout their group stage, to keep on battling throughout. Like you said, they're at that little bit of losing a player and now they get to face in Oregon like Evo. Genisys has had some controversy around them. They were the champions and then they had everybody in contract to jail.
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"Llama77
00:23:14:24 - 00:23:27:37
You saw even the parents talking about our players can't go find a job because they're locked in contract. So I think it'll be kind of interesting with all that surrounding. Can evil geniuses kind of get get above the smoke line there and make sure they're getting away from all that.
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"YoBoyCue
00:23:27:37 - 00:23:49:58
Rumblings, evil geniuses is is interesting, right? Because when you even look through their group, play through the one match, they the one group that they're that sorry, the one series that they played, they only won by a differential of four rounds. They kind of squeaked by. Right. Granted, that's kind of the benefit of being the champions from the year before, you know what I mean?
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"YoBoyCue
00:23:49:58 - 00:24:17:10
And you did have kind of a favorable group. I do think that originally when I saw the way that G2 played against Eagles, I was kind of concerned that maybe G2 really was still just a contenders team trying to figure out life in on the big stage. You know, I mean, but I do think when we kind of saw how the play in games went, I do think that we saw G2 pretty well right in there with the best of all, at least with that like second tier of team.
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"Llama77
00:24:17:15 - 00:24:43:21
Yeah, I mean, it was very, very close. You talk about map number one being a 1315 going into multiple overtimes, that map number two being an 1113. So very, very close and G2 definitely brought it towards them evil geniuses. I really hope they don't they don't fall in that pitfall of, okay, we're the champion. We I hope they've been practicing, which it looks like they have, they still look really good, even like I said, with the roster shakeups, with them holding down some of those previous players, they still look really good.
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"Llama77
00:24:43:21 - 00:24:54:40
So we'll have to see if they can make that series, that round differential excuse me a little bit better, because going to multiple overtime is probably not what you'll want in the semifinals game, but we'll see how things fall.
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"YoBoyCue
00:24:54:45 - 00:25:14:51
Yeah, you are going to be playing as well. That still is somewhat newer. Yeah, I'm all that kopitiam a little bit there. I'm not going to lie. I feel like when we look at the playoffs bracket, I think of the two matchups. I'm more confident on saying loud wins pretty handedly versus saying NRG or Sentinels win pretty handily.
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"YoBoyCue
00:25:15:01 - 00:25:34:44
And maybe part of that is being a little gun shy after, you know, last time we met and talking so much about how you think we're going to be here, you know, but NRG does look really good. I do feel like it's probably going to be NRG allowed from America's but one maybe evil geniuses surprises me and takes a lot of the distance.
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"YoBoyCue
00:25:34:44 - 00:25:38:37
I do think that NRG Sentinels game is going to be another banger though.
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"Llama77
00:25:38:42 - 00:25:53:58
I think so. I think it is probably in all of these sports. One of the best matches we have in this weekend, unless we get some bangers in Dallas. Yes, but we kind of talk about victims in general. I want to kind of talk about your biggest surprise because we we've kind of got to look at the whole VCT as a whole.
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"Llama77
00:25:53:58 - 00:25:58:57
We've had a ton of matches and, you know, we've had some big surprises what year so far.
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"YoBoyCue
00:25:59:02 - 00:26:17:38
So again, I'm going to give you a two look very briefly because we were talking about the dominance of Kami Corp and how they're starting to figure stuff out over in EMEA to see, after all the changes that Calming Corp went through, basically bringing on an entire new roster with Shin and they are now in the top four.
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"YoBoyCue
00:26:17:40 - 00:26:38:04
They are one series away from being qualified for Madrid. So Calming Corp a team that I think even when you listen to like the Plat chats of the world was kind of a meme of EMEA last year showing a lot of promise right now. My biggest surprise though, and I'm gonna give myself a pat on the back and also a little bit of a shameless plug.
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"YoBoyCue
00:26:38:09 - 00:26:57:17
But actually I called them at least making top four and a lot of people were already calling me crazy, which was Jenji. I definitely didn't expect them baking, but Jared, let alone winning the entire kick off, also taken it down PR X in the championship.
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"Llama77
00:26:57:22 - 00:27:12:05
I think that that was pretty surprising to me as well that you talk about a team that I thought their ceiling was, like you said, a little bit top four. They were going to probably make it that there were haters here and there, but they just found a way to get it done. It felt like with that roster.
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"Llama77
00:27:12:05 - 00:27:26:27
And so they're going to be very happy. They're gonna be, like you said, sitting at that top spot. And you know, it's not what they can do further. It's not just, okay, you won in your home region, it's what can you do at the national level? Can you go take down the teams of evil geniuses, the energies, the sentinels of the world?
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"Llama77
00:27:26:42 - 00:27:42:00
And that's the more important thing that you had all the success you need to continue to do it. And it could be a haters feel that like if you guys don't win a Nationals, was it just a luck or was it just the other teams having an off day? If you go there and prove them wrong, all of a sudden there's nobody to talk?
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"YoBoyCue
00:27:42:05 - 00:28:06:00
Well, I think it leaves for Jenji for now. I don't know if there is much of a doubt. I think it would have been one thing if you looked at, you know, kind of how the potential matchups would have been had they been the ones that played D1. Not that I don't think T1 didn't show as much promise, but Jenji beat Drex and yeah, Drex made some changes in the off season, but Drex still looked really good through their actual early games as well.
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"YoBoyCue
00:28:06:00 - 00:28:33:32
And everything that we've seen up to this point, I feel like Jenji just really showed that they've got that power. What's interesting is they're I think the thing that worries me about Jenji just a little bit is we saw several rounds throughout both the matchup with Paper X and even Drex. They're getting away with some stuff they probably shouldn't, whether it's like one V threes or situations where you're in a3v5 and someone pulls off a weird triple to make it a two.
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"YoBoyCue
00:28:33:32 - 00:28:48:42
The two that you're able to manage from there. Like they had some pretty wild like guys that gave them more manageable situations than they're probably going to see consistently. But I do think we saw that pop off potential and you can't help but be a little excited about that.
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"Llama77
00:28:48:46 - 00:29:05:01
Yeah, I'm excited for sure. We'll see if some of those international teams can punish them for for my big surprise, though, I honestly got to go back to one of your tweets here. I was sitting at home and I'm just like, cute tweet popped up. I was wearing my cloud nine journeys. I put Cloud died on fraud alert because Cloud nine is out.
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"Llama77
00:29:05:06 - 00:29:11:39
I was so hyped about this Cloud nine roster, but they felt like to me they just kind of fell off in playoffs. It didn't get where they wanted to go.
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"YoBoyCue
00:29:11:43 - 00:29:19:14
So what's interesting with Cloud nine, I almost want to give them a little credit.
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"Llama77
00:29:19:19 - 00:29:20:40
Yeah.
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"YoBoyCue
00:29:20:45 - 00:29:38:22
Because I almost want to say that MIB turned a lot of heads this weekend. I mean, might be our one. They did take cloud nine, the distance in their opening match and a lot of their matchups. I mean, when you look back at the scores cloud nine to match they won 1311. So you went the distance and then 1310, right?
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"YoBoyCue
00:29:38:22 - 00:30:03:18
Whereas MIB R then comes out in on bind in a said in the decider match which remember bind that they lost 1311 they were able to win that 114 to 12 so that one did go the distance plus overtime and then on ascent you were able to do pretty decent still going almost a distance again 39 So banger of a series, I think it's easy to look at it to whoa, I'm not going I maybe a little bit clickbait saying that Cloud nine's on fraud alert.
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"YoBoyCue
00:30:03:28 - 00:30:22:04
I feel like the bigger takeaway really is that MIB are like just might be for real. Like I think MIB are even. I'm thinking trying to think back to my America's like fearless. I think they were one that like the bottom three that I was like, don't count the on these ones, but the two through eight is pretty open, which now means America is just might be wide open.
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"YoBoyCue
00:30:22:13 - 00:30:23:34
Honestly. Yeah.
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"Llama77
00:30:23:39 - 00:30:45:55
Yeah, I think so as well. I think it was a pretty big shake up and I'm honestly surprised. I think this roster, it still needs time to develop. I think it's all it's always like hope you I'm thinking that saying okay there are studies have developed but I really think oxy is starting to develop into like such a good duelist player that I had stats about it last week that they were starting to get above average, still improving, improving, improving.
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"Llama77
00:30:45:55 - 00:30:54:38
So I think that the sky's the limit for them. I think they just need a little bit more time to try and cook up. But who knows? I mean, like you said, they are they're frauds unfortunately, this week.
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"YoBoyCue
00:30:54:43 - 00:31:18:46
Yeah. I mean, as for they're at least on fraud watch, I don't think I'm ready to call them frauds just quite yet. However, let's talk about it, because now for all of these teams like Cloud9, like Latvia, done like, hey, these once you're done with kick off, you're not playing any VCT games for like two or three months and one.
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"YoBoyCue
00:31:18:46 - 00:31:37:30
I don't think that's good for keeping the players. You know, iron sharpens iron, right? So if you're not playing at the highest of levels, there will I think that you're not going be able to reach your highest peak. But I think also from a product standpoint, Levy a ton has a popular has a pretty big fan base. Hundred Thieves has a pretty big fan base.
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"YoBoyCue
00:31:37:30 - 00:31:42:15
There are fans that are going to want to watch their team. They now had to wait till April.
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"Llama77
00:31:42:19 - 00:31:59:38
It's a long time and I think it it's a little bit like it's part partially the VCT format, but it's also partially that they they share that specifically here in like America, they share the stadium with ALCS. So it's kind of like harder to kind of get them scared at the same time they were fighting over weekend time slots.
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"Llama77
00:31:59:38 - 00:32:14:38
But I think at the same time, like Cloud nine is not just going to join some random league, right? They are. They are Cloud9. They're not going to go down in like it's like G2 coming down to play in like a bubble weekly or something like that. But I think it's tough because you have all this off time.
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"Llama77
00:32:14:38 - 00:32:28:49
We know that yeah, you can go grind ranked, but it's not the same thing. You can try and stack as many players as you want. It's still not going to be the same thing, even if you're playing at the highest level, at the highest rank, you're still going to be slowly losing that skill. It feels like over those two months.
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"YoBoyCue
00:32:28:58 - 00:32:56:29
And I mean, well, just scrim, bro. Two months of scrims scrim after scrim after scrim, nothing on the line like, man, it's just I definitely feel for the players. I'm hoping that maybe this is just an adjustment year because they had to figure some stuff out. We got to figure out something. I do think that this would be a good opportunity for like a third party, like invitation or sort of deals and stuff to be happening.
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"YoBoyCue
00:32:56:43 - 00:33:09:33
So I don't know what needs to happen for that to kind of start being implement because you could probably do the same thing in between the next two splits right after the next LAN. But we got to get something because there's not enough going on right now.
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"Llama77
00:33:09:37 - 00:33:18:28
There isn't. I mean, I look at somebody like maybe like pioneers or somebody that could possibly run a run a semi big to big tournament that could have some of those per team.
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"YoBoyCue
00:33:18:28 - 00:33:25:08
Hey, yo, my people from KC beat y'all. Do I know y'all? Don't y'all the homies. Let's let's figure it out. You know what I mean?
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"Llama77
00:33:25:22 - 00:33:26:21
Also, it's me or.
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"YoBoyCue
00:33:26:25 - 00:33:27:50
Also also hit me up about Midwest.
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"Llama77
00:33:27:50 - 00:33:32:01
It I mean, Cue Caterpillar, if you didn't know that.
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"YoBoyCue
00:33:32:06 - 00:33:32:37
Road.
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"Llama77
00:33:32:38 - 00:33:49:26
Crew either. Either way, I think the season does need a little bit more love for Valorant, but I think that's all I have for us is I think that's all I have for a VCT so far. So I want to hop on over to a brand new segment, Hot and Cold with Cue and Llama A B in bold.
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"Llama77
00:33:49:33 - 00:34:02:32
We are going to give you guys that give each other stats and then take some guesses on them. You guys can play at home and follow along throughout the season. There may or may not be a punishment or something. We're going to keep track of how we're doing. I don't know. I don't know. I don't.
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"YoBoyCue
00:34:02:33 - 00:34:03:22
Know. But I know.
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"Llama77
00:34:03:33 - 00:34:25:40
That there will not be a punishment. I don't know. I don't know. There may or may not be, But we're going to start with VCT. We were talking about VCT and my first stats that I am bringing up is Energy versus Sentinels. Focusing on that game specifically for this weekend. The game is going to be on Saturday. The second we talked about Demon one, the duelist player for NRG, he's been having some good games.
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"Llama77
00:34:25:40 - 00:34:49:17
He's been averaging 19 kills per game. But my question to you Cue is will he have 23 or more kills in game number one? So not over the entire series, not an average, just game one specifically. And to give a little bit of background, again, NRG right now are a 68% fan favorite and 78 78% predicted on the EA Sports money line.
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"Llama77
00:34:49:17 - 00:34:55:14
So the hot is demon one will drop 22 or less and cold is demon will drop 23 or more.
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"YoBoyCue
00:34:55:19 - 00:35:28:39
Yeah, I think I am going to have to go with the cold. 23 are more and the reason being is I feel like when we look at and our other games maybe not needing to rely as much on. Is that really fair to say though? I just think when I feel like when I look at NRG and Cloud9, right, like when you have the Mavs going 13 seven just wanted to give 14 to I expect deeper games.
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"YoBoyCue
00:35:28:39 - 00:35:45:29
I don't think you're going to have a 13 seven. I think you're going to have more rounds. I think this is going to be one. If it doesn't go to overtime, it's probably like 13, 11, 13, ten. And I think because there's that many rounds I'm going to take take you all.
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"Llama77
00:35:45:31 - 00:35:48:45
I'll let you take that. So we'll have to check back in next week.
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"YoBoyCue
00:35:48:50 - 00:35:51:49
11. Take that.
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"Llama77
00:35:51:54 - 00:36:07:25
No, no, I, I like I said, I put it as the it because I think that's the more likely outcome. I really do think that like they've had longer series is they've they've had some good go games and demand even though he's averaging 19 we've seen him drop some more before so that's my first one What you got for me on your hot and cold queue.
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"YoBoyCue
00:36:07:30 - 00:36:28:49
All right so for on the hot and cold we were talking about earlier, as far as with their these in the middle of two perfect splits here. Right. So they explain the perfect split. You win all three regionals we're calling them regionals. They're not qualifiers, but we're just live with it. You win all three regionals, so within your region, and then you also win the LAN.
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"YoBoyCue
00:36:28:49 - 00:36:49:23
So you win four grand finals in a row. So we saw it fair did last year. Well, fair. Complete two perfect splits. The cold being. Yes. Carmen Corp wins out qualifier three and then the LAN as well in first place or hot would be that they find a way to fizzle out.
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"Llama77
00:36:49:28 - 00:37:06:49
This is a tough one. This is honestly or a good one I think because I think like we said, Kami Group has shown that dominance before. But I think at majors, like again, anything can happen. The land is a different environment. You know there's always, it seems like upsets and shakeups and whatnot. So I think I'm going to say yes.
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"Llama77
00:37:06:50 - 00:37:17:19
So as much as I believe in North America, I think the spot is going to happen. I think they look very, very good. I think they look absolutely unstoppable. And I think they're going to win the regional and the major.
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"YoBoyCue
00:37:17:24 - 00:37:39:49
So I think that they will win the regional. I do think that there's something about the perfect split and the fact that we have not seen it before. Yeah, I don't think we're going to see it back to back for the first time, as much as I would love to, because I think the story of Barry especially and we talked about it earlier, we don't give coaches enough credit.
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"YoBoyCue
00:37:39:54 - 00:37:58:46
So for them to have a perfect split with picking up a new player. And I think maybe that could even start having that discussion. And I would love to have the debate of whether Vera make Zen or of Zen was really that good. And we'll see that in later. But or, you know, just talk about how good there is as a coach all together.
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"YoBoyCue
00:37:58:51 - 00:38:06:58
But I just I got to take the odds. I think at some point they drop. Okay. Yeah, I think it probably happens at LAN.
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"Llama77
00:38:07:03 - 00:38:16:37
Okay. I could definitely see it as well. We'll have to see if that does happen again, I think. Cue Like you said, your goals are a little bit more in the future. Mine are mostly for a little bit closer in.
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"YoBoyCue
00:38:16:49 - 00:38:21:39
Amanda Remember that for for future takes. That's my fault. No, I like your prepared.
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"Llama77
00:38:21:39 - 00:38:24:32
Stuff as well. More, more on the line as we get to look forward.
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"YoBoyCue
00:38:24:32 - 00:38:27:49
We didn't get you. You're taking hot or cold on yours, by the way.
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"Llama77
00:38:27:54 - 00:38:31:03
I just get the other automatically, like.
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"YoBoyCue
00:38:31:08 - 00:38:32:31
is that what it is? Yeah.
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"Llama77
00:38:32:36 - 00:38:45:39
Yeah. All right, cool. I got another hot and cold for you as well. My second one of four. And it is going over towards the LC as legal legends. I know you don't watch it as much as I do, but it.
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"YoBoyCue
00:38:45:39 - 00:38:46:53
Makes me feel stupid.
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"Llama77
00:38:47:06 - 00:39:05:16
Yeah, yeah, it's it's. It's a moba. It's. It's a tough game. But you know what? There's a lot of champions. There's a lot of fun and there's some fun happened this weekend because they're starting back up. They're on a three week break. They completed the first round robin. Of all the eight teams in the league, they played everybody else and now they'll go back and play them again.
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"Llama77
00:39:05:16 - 00:39:20:56
So we'll have to see. Cloud9 is going to be playing Fly Cueuest on Saturday. A little bit of the background for this matchup. Cloud9 was supposed be the super team at the start of the season. They had this great bottom lane. They brought in pieces in towards mid and jungle and change around some of their coaches as well.
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"Llama77
00:39:20:56 - 00:39:41:43
They started off hot, but in their last six games before the break they lost five of them, so only won one of them. And the Fire Quest Guide currently sits in first place seven into and beat them in the first round. Robin. The thing is though, I did release a documentary. They were kind of owning up to their mistakes.
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"Llama77
00:39:41:43 - 00:39:51:42
They are talking about how they're going to improve. So my question to you is hot or cold, hot C9 will beat Flat Quest or Cold Flat Quest to beat C9 this weekend in the ALCS.
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"YoBoyCue
00:39:51:46 - 00:40:09:32
give me piping hot baby. Look, listen, there is times where you got to put rosters together. We know we've seen what their ceiling can do is seen them go in that little bit of a run to start things off and bad things happen sometimes. But the good news is heading down the homestretch. All the bad's already happened.
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"YoBoyCue
00:40:09:32 - 00:40:19:57
They know where to go from here. But up, baby, what better way to start the trajectory up than be the number one team? Fly close who's currently 17 to give me the that.
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"Llama77
00:40:20:02 - 00:40:31:19
Okay, I will give you that for sure. I will have to root against C9 and force it this weekend it looks like, but it's going to be an exciting matchup. I think I got to get you more into LCS as the time goes on.
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"YoBoyCue
00:40:31:30 - 00:40:47:08
I try. I really do. Like, I kind of understand like when I watch it, I like I get it from like the watching perspective, but then when I try and really dig in and learn it, I feel dumb and I hate feeling dumb. So I'm just going be a casual viewer.
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"Llama77
00:40:47:13 - 00:40:54:46
Okay, well, me and Nick will have to teach you. We'll see how that goes down the line. But that's that's my second on call. You got another one for me?
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"YoBoyCue
00:40:54:46 - 00:41:21:49
Cue Yeah, I actually want to stick with. RLC Yeah, So not only are we going to stick with RLC as we're going to stick with Kamin, but we were talking about the dominance of this squad right now. But it's not just this squad and it's not just Farah, but Tara has made 24 straight championship Sundays. Really 24 of them backs.
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"YoBoyCue
00:41:21:54 - 00:41:49:15
Okay, so we get to find this out. Is the tier going to be able to get a full month's worth of championship Sundays qualified in a row, so 30 of them, or does the streak get broken before that? And this is perfect because you said that you think the tier is going to have the perfect split in split number one, which would then mean that at least it goes to split two.
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"YoBoyCue
00:41:49:24 - 00:42:00:34
In order for him to get 30 championship Sundays, they would then have to get to the championship Sunday through qualifiers and split two as well as land for split number two.
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"Llama77
00:42:00:39 - 00:42:09:05
Okay so it's if they make it like ish towards the end of end of land of split two is all the championships on this. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha.
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"YoBoyCue
00:42:09:05 - 00:42:11:55
So make top four from here on out for the rest of the year.
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"Llama77
00:42:12:00 - 00:42:29:52
Okay? Okay. Yeah. I think if we had to take. Yes, I think it's going to happen. I think that consistency is really, really there. And I think Championship Sunday is little bit easier to say that you know that perfect split then saying you're going to, you know, win the major you're going to win every single qualifier it's that you just have to make championship Sunday.
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"Llama77
00:42:29:52 - 00:42:43:55
And I think the team around them looks good. So I'm going to take the yes, I think I do have to add a slight caveat. What happens if Virginia switches teams? Does it count still? If like he switches teams, he starts to make champions Sunday on that other team?
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"YoBoyCue
00:42:44:00 - 00:42:59:12
Yes. Okay. Well, let's be honest. It's here but Sierra is coming up. So like, I don't think the tier is going anywhere. And I mean. No, I don't. Didn't he like one? They are like the odd years from coming corporate. But I'm mistaken.
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"Llama77
00:42:59:16 - 00:43:03:54
I think so. I think so. But I just want to add that just interesting case. You know.
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"YoBoyCue
00:43:03:59 - 00:43:11:44
Just in case, you know, Kobe gets traded to the Hornets or something. I gotcha. Yeah. Okay. Fair, fair, fair.
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"Llama77
00:43:11:49 - 00:43:28:01
All right. Well, two down for you. I got my third. Up next, we're going to switch over towards Apex Legends. This one is kind of an interesting one to say. The least. Kind of a confusing one at the same time. But so right now, of course, with the apex, how it works is you get R.P., you keep on gaining and getting and gaining.
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"Llama77
00:43:28:01 - 00:43:50:51
The top 750 are apex predators. However, there's always players, you know, battling for first battling to see how how much R.P. they can get in an entire season. So my stat for this third one is about the PC leaderboard but about the top four slots. So will the top four players hit 50,000 AAP by next Wednesday? Of course, we're seeing this live Friday.
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"Llama77
00:43:50:58 - 00:44:12:07
We're recording here Wednesday currently right now on Wednesday, the top four sit at 51, K 48 K, 42 K and 35 at K, and then there's like a hundred or so players that are around the 31,000 marker. So it's one player has already hit that marker, but the hot or cold as will four players at that marker the hottest.
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"Llama77
00:44:12:07 - 00:44:14:47
Yes the no is three or less Well hit.
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"YoBoyCue
00:44:14:47 - 00:44:17:46
It Remind me, when did this season started?
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"Llama77
00:44:17:51 - 00:44:22:21
Two weeks ago, I believe. Maybe a week and a half.
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"YoBoyCue
00:44:22:26 - 00:44:45:32
Two. We should sound about right. Yeah. Yeah. Give me the cold on that one. Just because it's 435 to get there, he's going to have to cook more than he's been cook in. And I don't know if that's going to be the case because you see most people kind of fall off their pace after like the first couple of weeks, and I think we're about right on that point.
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"YoBoyCue
00:44:45:32 - 00:44:51:24
So I think we'll probably see three hit it. Okay. But I don't think number four, it's okay.
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"Llama77
00:44:51:28 - 00:45:11:15
Yeah, I can definitely see that's coming. And I've also see there's been some crazy players like Timmy who was doing their like singles three and bronze though, to Fred. Absolutely it's Saturday and like he hasn't actually played that much at his own ranked against maybe them and the DSG squad get in and play some to get up to 50 K but we'll have to see how that goes.
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"Llama77
00:45:11:15 - 00:45:15:51
I'm excited to see all around the world of EA Sports, but I think you got one final hot and cold for me.
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"YoBoyCue
00:45:15:55 - 00:45:45:59
You. I do. And you know what? Since you're changing of e-sports I guess I mean, I feel like I've done two on Rocket League. I just changed things up. We're going to go to the land of VCT because in EU things are interesting. You've been watching much of the VCT EMEA. Yeah, Tums aside. So what's interesting for me is when you look at the two teams that are in the final four, outside of the top two, I would say that both are probably seen as a surprise.
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"YoBoyCue
00:45:45:59 - 00:46:12:45
I think a lot of people were expecting Team Liquid to probably earn their way into the second slot and I don't think a lot of people are expecting heretics. Settle. I wasn't so does here so I guess the hotter coal would be does heretics or Korean court or an upset in order to qualify because we saw Genji was able to do just that in order to qualify in Pacific.
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"YoBoyCue
00:46:12:50 - 00:46:33:09
So do we see whether it's heretics who's technically the one seed but did beat but who? I think a lot of people saw was the number one seed in their bracket, or is it the true two seed Kamin Corp? Do they take down fanatics? So if either one of them does, that would be I guess if they do, that would be the yes.
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"YoBoyCue
00:46:33:09 - 00:46:40:23
Abby hot because it's more or less likely to happen. Or do you think we just see who we're expecting to see which is at it.
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"Llama77
00:46:40:28 - 00:46:57:47
I think going to go cold. I think it's a little bit more expected. I don't think the upsets are going to happen. At the same time, I think that DCT Pacific is a little bit of a, you know, crazy region that crazy things going to happen. And I think it's possible that it could go either way, but I don't think I'm taking the gold.
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"YoBoyCue
00:46:57:52 - 00:47:21:27
Though I love that you say that. Fun stat for you. Yeah and now I'm mad because I had it written down. I can't remember it was and wasn't in these notes but bu and many bu br heretics were leading the entire VCT I believe was on there. Katie is so like there the two of them together Bu and many bu.
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"YoBoyCue
00:47:21:32 - 00:47:43:04
And what's interesting is it's like all they needed, all bu needed was, was little brother to come around and all of a sudden is just playing out of their mind as the IGL. Nonetheless, I think there's something about playing alongside your brother, especially at that level that brings a little bit of extra confidence. So I'm glad that you took the cold because I'm expecting a hot take.
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"YoBoyCue
00:47:43:04 - 00:47:48:43
I think. I think here takes control. Okay, So I usually take the opposite, which is, well, the debate is.
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"Llama77
00:47:48:48 - 00:48:03:34
Okay, okay, okay, fine. I do like that though, that like C and brothers and we we don't get to see it too super often. I know we've seen it a couple of times in ISIS where a couple of players have, you know, met their other family members alongside the other side of the rift, which is it's always exciting.
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"Llama77
00:48:03:34 - 00:48:09:56
It always adds, you know, on the team, like you said, a little bit more of that team dynamic. And if you're playing against them even more of that, you know.
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"YoBoyCue
00:48:09:57 - 00:48:29:24
I would say we usually see that more as like the playing against siblings. Then we just see that down in Brazil with the the Rainbow six finals, I believe I saw I'm not a big seeds guy, but I think I saw a story about it where they were like consoling the brother who lost the center stage, which is pretty cool.
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"Llama77
00:48:29:29 - 00:48:47:09
Very, very cool. I it will be excited to see that one. Got to watch lots of sports this weekend to check up on the hot and cold. But we got one final e sport that you guys got to watch and you got to make sure to tune in to Frost on Monday for this one because this one is about the previous frost Monday and the upcoming frost Monday blizzard.
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"Llama77
00:48:47:09 - 00:49:08:51
So talking about the number 126, we saw the squad sup Lama Knight yell leave end up pigeon be able to take the dog but my question is will any of these players be a part of the winning squad in number 127 the hot is yes the sublime squad member will win Frost 127 or the cold is. No they will not.
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"YoBoyCue
00:49:09:03 - 00:49:37:03
So I'm going to go with. Yes. Just because we've seen a little bit of a pattern of repeats and I think because we're more than likely going to be seeing this team not competing together, I'm going to take my odds with at least one of the players and ending up winning. I do got to say, if you did not get a chance to tune in this past Monday, you got to at least go back and watch the grand finals where everybody was lama made for a really fun cast.
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"Llama77
00:49:37:08 - 00:49:51:59
it was awesome. It was a really, really good moment and. I think, like you mentioned, it's kind of interesting because these are three players that. Yes, whether or not you have played together before, we've seen that you're still kind of looking for that, Right. Fit on Lotus to try and find that, right? Correct. Three. But that was just a pick up squad for the day.
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"Llama77
00:49:51:59 - 00:50:08:00
And, you know, with Clover already kind of splitting up, I don't know what's going to happen with Pigeon. We saw how good pigeon is. We saw how good pigeon is in the air specifically, which I feel like can add so much that team. However, like I said, I think I think they're splitting up for this next one. We'll have to see if three separate of those teams can give you a higher percent chance.
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"Llama77
00:50:08:07 - 00:50:13:24
But it's also possible we know in those replays that just teams sometimes just lose early and then unfortunate things happen.
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"YoBoyCue
00:50:13:37 - 00:50:31:46
Yeah, we do know that. I think there is a tweet about from one of the players between pigeon or side that they are like looking to potentially try and stay together under clover. But you mentioned like pigeons presence in the sky could be a really good add to a lot of teams. So could be a good addition heading in a split number two for a lot of squads.
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"YoBoyCue
00:50:31:46 - 00:50:49:04
It's going to be interesting. I feel like roster mania especially and a llama is going to be insane, especially because we know at the top, like the tippy top, a lot of the teams we talked about last week, you have these teams that have the veterans and the teams that have a lot of the new like unproven guys, Right.
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"YoBoyCue
00:50:49:04 - 00:51:06:34
I feel like a lot of veteran teams were to see a veteran dropped here and there and they'll shuffle around. But if we start to see those teams that have all the new folks, whether it's getting one of their players poached to go up those top teams or good teams, it could be the wild, Wild West between our two splits.
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"Llama77
00:51:06:39 - 00:51:25:46
I definitely could and I could see a player like Pigeon being someone like a up that you know, where they have that slot perfectly fit with, with experience on the roster. They pick him up, he's got all this skill and they can train him to be something pretty awesome. But I also think that, you know, Lotus is going to try and find their right roster.
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"Llama77
00:51:25:46 - 00:51:39:58
Lotus is going to try and find their correct trio and I think. Knight Yeah, I know. Knight Young Love. They kind of, they played together some, they split some, but I really think they're such a good duo together. I like the original. What is that roster? But of course it's not up to me, unfortunately.
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"YoBoyCue
00:51:40:03 - 00:51:59:42
Yeah, it's always interesting things because you all it's having that balance of should we let this cook and take some more time knowing the lay of the land right now? Or do we try and go find something that maybe has a little bit more of that instant success, even if we don't have that original synergy and kind of history, Right?
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"YoBoyCue
00:51:59:47 - 00:52:00:36
Yeah.
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"Llama77
00:52:00:41 - 00:52:15:32
I feel that for sure. And I think it's all it's also a little bit hard with you talk about a player like Zappos who is a fantastic streamer, a fantastic content creator in his own right. So it's like, do we do we have the actual content piece where maybe we're not more focused on getting a team that can actually win out.
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"Llama77
00:52:15:32 - 00:52:28:48
So yes, we're just focused on, you know, getting our name out there and making sure the Lotus is a known brand, but we'll have to see our roster mania. Does that shake on cue? I got to say today has been lots of fun and we got lots of EA Sports to look forward to this weekend on Hot and Cold.
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"Llama77
00:52:28:48 - 00:52:38:18
We have to check back next week with some more statistics. Check back with you guys at home and see how you guys are doing. You guys better be keeping up with it. Megan, you're hot and cold as well, just like you and I have been picking.
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"YoBoyCue
00:52:38:25 - 00:53:03:23
And I promise for future weeks, I'm going to try and do something more that we can do just just for the weekend. All right? Know, I thought we were doing kind of some more long term, really setting up the fire takes, you know, that maybe I'll do something like a two in one favors. But llama, it's always blast if you rather we we have casted everything from high school to doing some like pro league level stuff, the bubble scene stuff.
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"YoBoyCue
00:53:03:23 - 00:53:10:18
We've done multiple titles and I'm glad that we finally get to get together and just talk e-sports in general once a week. This is a lot of fun.
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"Llama77
00:53:10:22 - 00:53:28:35
It really, really is. You know, it's nice to just sit down, break down everything that's going on. And obviously as more leagues start up, we'll add more information off towards the ball and like we said, got to make sure to tune in towards all the stuff here at Frost. Not only watch this full clip over on the YouTube, obviously going live over there after we're done here on Switch.
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"Llama77
00:53:28:35 - 00:53:36:36
But as well, make sure you tune it in towards the frost up Mondays we got some big things planned and you don't want to miss that big tournament on Monday.
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"YoBoyCue
00:53:36:41 - 00:53:55:15
Our big tournaments coming up, more content than ever coming in over France, bigger tournaments, bigger prize pools. We also got more content. I'm pretty both from you and I as individuals, so make sure you keep those out now in the description below, man. But this has been an absolute blast. We appreciate you guys. June And also want to give a big shout out to our homie Nick.
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"YoBoyCue
00:53:55:15 - 00:54:07:24
That's work in the back. Got to bring the dream team together. Y'all are you know what it is always putting in the hard work in the back of the scene, man. But till we get y'all back for the next one, First off, if you're watching on YouTube, I need you. Do me a favor. Subscribe, but turn the notifications on.
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"YoBoyCue
00:54:07:24 - 00:54:20:58
All right. If you're watching over on any of our social media, just hit the like button on the clips, leave comments. I'll know how it goes when the algorithm tall all here help a brother out I And so we got your back here for the next one man Don't forget with everything crazy going on in the world today.
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"YoBoyCue
00:54:20:58 - 00:54:30:36
Be true You be sincere. Yeah. Martin Love. After all, that's lava. I'm Cue for the rest of the crew to the front of the back now. Great rescue night. Who's.
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